How to use elephants?

**Garvanko** · 02-22-2006, 10:34

Cataphracts, Clibinarii, Immortals, Armoured Camels... What more do you need to rout heavy infantry?

**x-dANGEr** · 02-22-2006, 13:09

So, you want me to gather my army of catas and just charge into the enemy's huge block of infantry ?

**Garvanko** · 02-22-2006, 13:43

Yes.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 02-22-2006, 20:28

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

So, you want me to gather my army of catas and just charge into the enemy's huge block of infantry ?

No, we want you to use Kat, Cibs etc on one flank while disrupting the other flank with horse archers.

**Garvanko** · 02-22-2006, 23:04

That too, Wigferth Ironwall

**teja** · 03-03-2006, 21:07

Eles are fast, they can move along with any cavalry based army and strike terror into all enemies. This are their main use. If encountering archers, try your best to push them back so they cannot harm you with flame arrows. When striking the enemy with your cavalry, keep your eles in 2nd rank to strike terror and are safe until the time is right to engage. In some kind it is similar to wardogs, which I seldom use until the enemy is routing. I take them with me just to strike fear in the enemies hearts. Unlike the dogs an elephant can do very much damage to almost any unit. Try to keep their fatigue low, because they go bersek more easy when exhausted.

As for the Macedonians I lack this kind of 'fear striking units' very much! In BI the Sassanids have such an awesome cavalry that the need for elephants is much lower but in vanilla RTW.

**Upxl** · 03-03-2006, 21:59

Laughed myself silly the other day when I countered charging eles with 2 units of war dogs.
Man, those dogs flew around!

It isn’t a very nice thing to do (for the doggies) but I sure recommend it to you all.

**Avicenna** · 03-03-2006, 22:06

A nice thing for the sassanids against an infantry army is your general(s) set to fire at will. Don't rely on the clibinarii, I've found that their weapon isn't that great at slugging or in the initial charge. Cataphracts should do better, with sughdian warriors backing up and elephants rushing or shooting if you don't want the risk of your precious creatures dying before gaining some exp.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 03-03-2006, 22:08

Hefalumps always seem to be tougher to use then they are to encounter -- despite the fact that trample romans well. I have always found it hard to do anything with a Hefalump that didn't also cause havoc among my troops etc. Until....

I put my Hefa's out on one flank at slight distance, refused. Enemy archers, javelins, and slingers then pulled off to hunt my elephants -- the AI seems to feel the compulsive need to do this even more than to hunt slingers -- but right across the front of 2 heavy cavalry squadrons tucked in tight along my line.....

So my answer is ...use 'em as bait and then mow down the now over-extended missile and skirmish troops with your cav.

If you want to use them old school, don't bother with tactics -- they manuever too slowly despite good straight on speed -- and just take them through a couple of units at about a 30-degree angle (aiming for an offset unit in the third line and hitting charge should do the trick). Do follow up with some cavalry or barb infantry to murder the folks that have been knocked down.