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    Are you disappointed with the rehash of the Medieval setting for the next Total War game? I know I'm not! I've always wanted to see the great battles of the Middle Ages fought in glorious 3d!

    That said, is there a setting people would have preferred to see in stead of the Medieval one?

    For example:
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    Certainly not!
    I those terrific late mediaeval shots make my mouth water.
    Plus it makes it more likely that they get their historical research right.

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    Of course not. Imagine it, Medieval wars in a more glorius engine.. Ouch! That shall own..
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    Im in the NO camp too. Think the added flexability on the campaign map alone is worth it.... and its just been too long since ive been excommunicated, used to happen to me all the time.

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    It all depends if they can get the same great gameplay that MTW had, if its just like RTW but with new skins and map etc but with the same sh**t gameplay, everyone will be dissapointed.
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    eh, i'd have liked something else, but i'm willing to wait and see.

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    Does anyone know when the game is predicted to be released?

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    Released Christmas 2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Ragnar
    It all depends if they can get the same great gameplay that MTW had, if its just like RTW but with new skins and map etc but with the same sh**t gameplay, everyone will be dissapointed.
    I couldn't agree more.

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    Can I just point something out here?

    If you played RTW before MTW, you aren't going to like MTW. But if you played MTW before RTW, the chances are you will prefer MTW. This is because really they are different games put under the same title and made by the same developers. The gameplay of MTW (in the campaign) is almost completely different from the campaign gameplay of RTW.

    Quote Originally Posted by King Ragnar
    It all depends if they can get the same great gameplay that MTW had, if its just like RTW but with new skins and map etc but with the same sh**t gameplay, everyone will be dissapointed.
    Sh**t? What is that supposed to mean?

    And don't bash RTW. MTW might be a better game but RTW was still very enjoyable to play.
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    I really wanted Medieval 2, but this is pathetic. I wanted Medieval, not Reneisance and New World crap. I may buy it once some good mods come out, or if I'm working with a mod to fix it, otherwise I won't buy it, just like BI.

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    Medieval Era and Aincent era are the only good time frames for well any game... Modern, American Colonization, any thing with guns, what have you is bad time frame for ANY game. so yea... Mevieval II: Total war is the only game i would of bought besides Rome II: Total War , witch I pray they do for 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    I really wanted Medieval 2, but this is pathetic. I wanted Medieval, not Reneisance and New World crap. I may buy it once some good mods come out, or if I'm working with a mod to fix it, otherwise I won't buy it, just like BI.
    No disrespect, but what the hell are you talking about?
    The game starts at 1080 and it ends in 1530.
    IT IS MEDIEVAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSEG
    No disrespect, but what the hell are you talking about?
    The game starts at 1080 and it ends in 1530.
    IT IS MEDIEVAL.
    I didn't follow his post either, but he's so experienced, it got me worried!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirGrotius
    I didn't follow his post either, but he's so experienced, it got me worried!
    Do not confuse 6000 posts as experience. I look at content and see not much from endless posts about how bad this game is. It is another case of the same whining about this is wrong, that is bad. Nobody forces anybody to buy games and endless posts of limited content are boring. The so called 'extremely important' people quoted are maybe not so important. So important that anybody who is not historian probably never heard of them.
    First time I ever heard Medieval era described as geography too. What is this all about? Aztecs have no cavalry? What is this? I could make countless post such as I hate this game, I wanted this. We are getting MTW II, that is that.

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    Back on topic without baiting/bashing please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hun
    First time I ever heard Medieval era described as geography too. What is this all about? Aztecs have no cavalry? What is this? I could make countless post such as I hate this game, I wanted this. We are getting MTW II, that is that.
    Without getting into how much of whiner Steppe is I'll say that there were no horses in North america from like 20000 BC until the 16th century. The paeleolithic peoples of north america ate the horses instead of riding them. The Spainish brought them back here with them. All those native tribes they show with horses in western movies didn't have them until they stole them from the Spainish. And yes medieval was geographical. It was, like the dark ages, a european phemomenon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSEG
    No disrespect, but what the hell are you talking about?
    The game starts at 1080 and it ends in 1530.
    IT IS MEDIEVAL.
    1530 is not the Medieval period, it is the Renesiance. The Medeival period ended about 1453 (or a bit later, depends on what your go by) with the fall of Constantinople.
    The Reneisance is extremely different from the Medieval time period, especially in Europe, and it is charactrised by a growing number of gunpowder units (which are boring, though necassary at the end of the game for a Medieval era), as well as an economic change.

    And how pray tell would they have the Aztecs if it is Medieval? The Medieval era is not just a time, but also a geographical area, from Europe to North Africa to Central Asia (and probably to China). The Aztecs have no cavalry, and should not enter in any game about the Medieval era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    1530 is not the Medieval period, it is the Renesiance. The Medeival period ended about 1453 (or a bit later, depends on what your go by) with the fall of Constantinople.
    Wow, is it soo big problem why MTW2 streches from medieval to first 80 years of renessance.

    That's acutally an interesting thing, since near the end of the game (if you don't conquer the world in first 100 years like in can happen in RTW), you'll get some interesting new game elements like gunpowder or discovery of new world.
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    Yes it is. CA will not reflect the social and military changes from the feudal period to the Renessance accuratley. The main reason they are doing this is to allow more gunpowder units, to have more flash bang bang. They should concentrate on accurate AI formations and diplmoacy, and focus on cavalry warfare which was vital to all groups of people during the Medieval era. Which is another reason why the Aztecs should not be in, their lack of cavalry will make it extremely difficult to make them at all a challenge.

    And biggest of all, far more important people to the rest of the factions are being excluded for the Aztecs. Extremely important people such as the Qipchaqs, the different Russian principalties, the Ayyubids, the Abbasids and many others are being left out to make room for a superfoulous faction like the Aztecs.

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    No, no and no. I just wanted Medieval with Rome engine.
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    Hmm, perhaps the Aztec campaign will be somewhat part of the larger campaign but on a separate map. Aztec gold will also be of great use when reforming your armies from feudal ones into a somewhat professional force with guns and cannons.

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    As the most enjoyable times I had with Mtw engine are when Im playing Ntw, Atw and now Pike&musketier v1.0, I really dont mind they focus Mtw2 till 1580, that will probably allow for even better versions of above mods.
    About Rtw, I really hope they can keep the look while making Mtw combat style.
    I was a very disapointed Rtw player (I pre ordered the game, instaled, played the toturial, started a campaign and was terrible bored by the asteroid pace of the units, unistaled the game more then a year ago and only after this Christmas I give it another try, this time much more enjoyable with Rtr or Biv1.6 Atilla's mod).
    So for Me, Mtw2 will hopefull allow for real great mods to be done on the time I enjoy most, from the birth of My country, Portugal (That I hope this time can be playable, not a freaking spanish province, for Christ's sake Portugal is independent since 1143!!!) till the Xix century with the look of Rtw and the feel of Mtw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia
    No, no and no. I just wanted Medieval with Rome engine.
    If I played only the strategic part of the game, I would be with You, but the real time combats are really (On vanilla game) anoying and boring compared with Mtw ones.
    Some fights I had with Mtw+vi Bkb or med mod (Let Me say I never played vanilla Mtw, lol) where oustanding, taking more then 2 hours to finish them, watching Ai really play as it should.
    Some applies to Nap Tc or several Atw custom battles and most of all to the 1st P&m battle i did, where the diversity and way of enployment of the units where a real chalenge, both to me and to the Ai.
    So I really understand any wants the look and feel of Rtw startegic part over Mtw (2 simple) but no way I want the Rtw combat feeling, let single players think and enjoy a fight, while being chalenged. Not all players are online ones!!! (There I really beleave Rtw looks better then Mtw, at least no Ai to fight).

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    *dble post*
    - I'm sorry, but giving everyone an equal part when they're not clearly equal is what again, class?

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    Best choice CA has ever made...just look at all the buzz this has created. Just hopes the MP side is as great as its original! SP is fun and all, but Mp is just in a whole different level and experience. I love the Medieval era and to include the Aztecs...just perfect! Let's just hope for the best!
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    Lots of promise, could be a great game..

    Mind you, i've said that about a certain game before..
    - I'm sorry, but giving everyone an equal part when they're not clearly equal is what again, class?

    - Communism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gen_Lee
    If I played only the strategic part of the game, I would be with You, but the real time combats are really (On vanilla game) anoying and boring compared with Mtw ones.
    Some fights I had with Mtw+vi Bkb or med mod (Let Me say I never played vanilla Mtw, lol) where oustanding, taking more then 2 hours to finish them, watching Ai really play as it should.
    Some applies to Nap Tc or several Atw custom battles and most of all to the 1st P&m battle i did, where the diversity and way of enployment of the units where a real chalenge, both to me and to the Ai.
    So I really understand any wants the look and feel of Rtw startegic part over Mtw (2 simple) but no way I want the Rtw combat feeling, let single players think and enjoy a fight, while being chalenged. Not all players are online ones!!! (There I really beleave Rtw looks better then Mtw, at least no Ai to fight).
    Actually, I want strategic map from MTW and battles from MTW, but with RTW engine in battles.
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    I doubt they'll ever revert to Risk type campaign for future games.
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    I would personally prefer a Dark Age: TW, with f. ex four starting dates; 500, 632, 780 and 900. But... the Medieval period would be my second choice, so it's ok...

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