Time for it all to go back to STW

[Orda Khan]

I think it could be done on a small scale. The old style gameplay exists, but what's missing are players willing to embrace it. Too many players seem content with adopting inferior gameplay as their standard. We have recently seen several old time STW v1.12 vets coming back here, and they are being steered towards the inferior STW/MI v1.02. You won't find the old STW experience there. Most players dropped STW/MI v1.02 like a hot potato back in 2001.

When MTW came along I was in the middle of building a new PC. My old one could not handle MTW but I was not too bothered because, at the time I was enjoying the 103 Mod. It was a big improvement over v1.02 IMO and I was in no hurry to move on to MTW. However, that being said I would probably have to admit that my favourite ever online battle of any Total War was a v1.02 4v4 on Totomi, where myself and ShinGaijin gathered our battle weary troops for one last stand and won the day with an audacious charge by our depleted infantry and my one remaining unit of CA.
That will go down as my favourite but there were other excellent Shogun battles that stay in the mind, I can not say the same for MTW or RTW. I suspect that a lot of this is down to the fact that the whole online battle thing was a new experience. Whatever the reason, it was great fun....but now it is gone. Any new STW venture would be very small scale and would not transport me back to those times, too many people have moved on. As you stated, v1.02 is the most popular version and one that I played out of necessity rather than choice, so I always felt there was something missing on the few times I returned to STW/MI. I wholeheartedly understand Kafir's feelings and many is the time where I have wished that I could go back to that beautiful EA Lobby and enjoy the great times all over again. Sadly I do not think it would be possible. I really don't. It would be a pale immitation and this has no reflection on the current Shogun crowd.
I have this feeling too, that MTW II will not provide us with a better experience and that goes for any subsequent release, TW online has run its course IMO. I think we have had the best days

........Orda

[Dunhill_BKK]

G'day all

I haven't returned to STW yet, but I fondly remember fluid 5v5 games. That is what seems to have been lost in MP with RTW. I didn't get a chance to indulge in MTW MP, I assume the unit choices were do diverse to allow for even play.

I was quite impressed with the mod listed above, it looks nice but I don't know if the MP game would be up to the standard of STW.

Is this what we are after, balanced, realistic play with quick responses from a full field of 5v5? I can still remember the carnage and that some games lasted close to an hour and that wasn't because of lag.

You'd think the sprites woudlmake a comback and provide the ability to add a few more units per player with teh advance of technology?

Nice to see some activity on teh STW frant anyway, maybe I'll dig out the old disks and put it on the new machine. Its been a while and I'd enjoy playing what in all likelihood are probably the oldest and most honourable players int eh TW community. Remember the old honourable players website?

Ah it takes me back, thank God Uni was paying for my internet connection at the time.

[Dunhill]

Sorry, I just had to post again with my original forum name. I hate the new one, the join date is not venerable enough.

I can't stand folks with join dates of 2004-2006 spouting all kinds of spurious advice, some of them might be right but most don't have a clue.

They just don't know what STW was really like online. The musket wedgies, the monk rushers. It's all coming back.

[Puzz3D]

...

[Dunhill]

No 5v5?. My memory was never good, but I could swear folks used to play 5v5. Yes, maybe it just felt like more with me trying to defend some patch of land against numerous groups.

Ah, the dim and distant past, ah, great fun.

I'll have to check out the mod, and hunt down my CDs (could be a big ask).

I'll see you round the server if I get things running.

Cheers,

[Dunhill]

So are most people playing the MTW/VI mod or the actual STW through a fake server?

I got the mod and files off your signature, but I reckon I'd have to pick up MWT and VI in a bargain bin somewhere.

[Puzz3D]

...