Is this a monster in Lake Champlain?

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 02-24-2006, 12:47

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1648547

I have a keen interest in Crypto-Zoology and have long heard and read of tales of water-horses and lake monsters. This film is interesting. The wakes don't convince of much but there is definetly something under the water, something at least serpentine looking, almost snake like. It is not a sturgeon or a eel thats for sure. Whatever it is it is moving, its not a log and it can certainly put a good point of something snake like in Lake Champlain. But is it Champ? We probabaly won't know

**Devastatin Dave** · 02-24-2006, 14:46

Interesting stuff. The guys did say that filmed this they were using a digital camera so the focus was on the water and not what was underneath. They said that they could see something long and serpentine in shape. This is betond cool!!!

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 02-24-2006, 17:15

They named it Champ?

**master of the puppets** · 02-24-2006, 17:20

Champ Champlain...duh

any way, AWSOME, i hope it starts eating people

, if not i just want to see it caught so i can say that there may be some cool stuff on earth that humanity has'nt destroyed. naturally as soon as its caught it will be auctioned off and eaten but then at least we can keep searching for the lock ness munster.

**Byzantine Mercenary** · 02-24-2006, 17:54

how big is this lake? to support an entire species you would need a stable food source in sufficient quantity for a creature of this size, you couln't have just one or even just one family, as inbreeding and the ocasional bad season or calamity would have wiped them out by now. You would need a rather large number to sustain the species and if there was a large number (say 10+ at least) there would probably have been more sightings. Is there any history of such creatures in local native american legends? that would be a good indicator as they could be a species that has declined recently and so that would explain the small number of individuals. also are there any other large aquatic andimals in the area if you can get a whale in the thames, what other lost sea creatures could end up there?

**BDC** · 02-24-2006, 17:58

Random sea creatures that end up in lakes die, due to osmosis. Eventually they suck up too much water and explode.

**Devastatin Dave** · 02-24-2006, 17:59

BM, the Indaians in that area have many legends involving Champ. They would even bring an animal sacrifice to cross the river back in the past. I have an easier time believing in ocean bound large unfounded species, but lake "monters" are a little herder to believe. Its possible I guess, but not probable.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 02-24-2006, 22:47

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

They named it Champ?

How dare you insult us!!! (Vermonters) /jk
Lake monsters don't seem to get great names, Nessy anyone?

BTW BM it is a pretty big lake, I'd guess that it is at least the size of Loch Ness if that helps at all. Go to a map of the US and check out VT's Nortyh-Western side, that is where the lake is, and that may give you an idea of how big it is.

I've been to Lake Champlain, I never saw Champ, and doubt he exists, but there have been legends about it for quite some time so you never know there might be something to it.

**Byzantine Mercenary** · 02-24-2006, 23:08

well off what everyone has said so far it is probably a snake or large fish, it sounds like this lake is big enough for a larger animal but there would be more evidence if there was something more there