Nice to have you back JAG. But DA pwned you there.

Oh and DA,
Being spit out of a vagina onto the dirt of the British Islands makes you British and nothing more
Damn right, but then,to paraphrase Rhodes, being born British is to have won first prize in the lottery of life. Not that JAG thinks so

Anyway JAG, one of the many problems with your world view is moral hazard. I'm not suggesting we should live in a ruthless anarcho-capitalist society for the fun of it, but it IS true that economically rational people will adjust their behaviours to maximise their benefits, and the introduction of a huge state necessarily seruously distorts the economy and peoples actions.

So (and we have done this debate before) if redistribution of wealth means funding first class education so anyone has a chance to succeed, good child care, good provision for disabled people to get access to work, and a good healthcare system, then yes please.

If it means someone dipping into my wallet to take money I worked hard to earn, because he's got less cash than me, then there is a word for that, and its theft. Just because people vote for it doesn't make it any less theft.