What now for Taiwan and China?

[King Edward]

I'd hardly say this potential conflict had just 'popped up' its been going on since the 50's but since the KMT lost power Chen really is pushing china hard. Mind you i'd be a bit nervey if i knew a superpower had 7000 ballistic missiles pointed at me. Thats why I think the american sold them parts of the Aegis technology 18 months ago.

Would the public really support the US in another ground deployment of troops? not sure the UK public would....

[Watchman]

By what I know of the respective PRC and Taiwanese naval and air assets, nevermind the US ones in the region, Beijing can forget amphibious assault right off the bat. They just plain don't have the hardware to get anything floating even as far as the Taiwanese coastline without being buried under a torrent of anti-ship missiles.

[Mount Suribachi]

not sure the UK public would....

I would. I'm sick to the back teeth of the EU sucking up to China all in the name of business. Its "screw the human rights abuses and aggressive militaristic chinese diplomacy, let me at the ££$$$£££". And it makes me mad. Seeing British troops on the street holding back protestors when the chinese Pres came to britain a few years ago, lest he see them made my blood boil

In the past 12 months China have publicly threatened to attack Japan, invade Taiwan and start a nuclear war with America. Its about time someone stood up to the Bully Boy.

Now, the truth is, between Afghanistan, Iraq and the simmering tensions in the Falklands, there's not much Britain can actually do other than allow the US to use Diego Garcia as a base. But if I was Bush, I would make sure to keep a carrier battle group or two in the area for the time being

[Kagemusha]

You guys realize that war with China would mean draft in United states.And to be honest do you think drafted US troops would be any superior to conscripted Chinese troops?Also the in the US arsenal do you guys believe that the basic equipment for those drafted US troops would be anywhere near advanced to that equipment that is available to active troops in US service.I think that this will be once again more talk less action.And im glad becouse of that.

[Kagemusha]

With our Abrams tanks and F/A-22 jets, half the job is done already. The last 15 years have proven that no conventional army can stand up to the USA. The only possible problem china could pose is occupation. And we would not be invading to conquer, simply invading to cripple.

Yep.But you have little problem currently.Your well armed spearhead Divisions are already deployed everywhere around the globe.Im not on the Chinas side anyway on this but if you want war with them you better start practicing how to use M-16.You can always Bomb China and destroy their infrastructure but thats about that and i guess China is pretty well aware of that fact too.But if you want go to land war against chinese army by occypying China.I wish you good luck my friend.

[Kagemusha]

Yet another reason to be against the Iraq War. Big Surprise.

How big is the PLA? 2.5 Million? How big was Saddam's army the first time around? Over 1 Million? The first Gulf War lasted about a month. We were smashing the army, and didn't really give a damn about insurgency. I imagine the case would be true in a conventional war with China as well. Smash the army, lay waste to the country-side, peasants with rifles be damned since we're leaving when the business is done. Catch my drift?

Sorry Cube if im getting on your nerves but it seems it doesnt matter anyway what i say to you forget about it.Go invade China.Im sure when Peking sees US Marine divisions on their cost making ambhibious assault they wont launch their Nukes to US.

[Beirut]

Russia to the North, India to the West, Taiwan, South Korea, and the US to the East, hundreds of enemy sea & airbases and untouchable lines of communication surrounding it, and a billion people itching for freedom on the inside.

China is in a fragile position.

[Watchman]

It's also starving for energy. Them think-tanks and such that now play with these scenarios apparently theoretize a possibility of eventual war between Chian and the US - over control of oil tranfer routes, such as the Central Asian pipelines and particularly those SE Asian shipping lanes that run through, whatwasit, the Malage Straits.

In any case as of now it has absolutely no way of winning any such conflict (at least militarily; the necessities of politics may naturally be an entirely different thing). Just about the best it could manage would be to simply grimly hang on and absorb the dreadful beating its previous-generation military would take until the US plain runs out of ammunition and money to keep going. Given that a major embargo, information warfare and propaganda campaign and other such modern niceties would also be the order of the day, the populace are a tad restless to begin with, and the army ...getting depleted pretty rapidly, avoiding a total internal collapse long enough should be a bit tricky.

Whatever else the old fogeys in Beijing might be, I don't think it includes "criminally stupid". They can no doubt recognize a blatantly losing proposition like anyone else.

[Leet Eriksson]

You guys set up a countdown calender to the year 2050.. thats when half the world is one peoples republic and the rest are administrative regions being directly commanded from Beijing.





For some reason japan is a nuclear populated zone..

[Don Corleone]

Talk about paranoid fantasies, Faisal. I really hope that was a joke. Let me ask you this... the Western World will allow PRC to overrun India, Indochina, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia and a host of other countries, yet somehow, they're going to stop at Iran's borders? And I love the notch cut out for Pakistan (and Burma?) Tell me the truth, where did you get that map?