Recommended faction?

**Kralizec** · 02-28-2006, 00:01

Reinstalling EB as I post this...

I have only played campaigns as Epeiros thus far (I'm a rabid Pyrhus fan), but in the end I got frustrated by their bugged recruitment roster. IIRC I could not recruit Illyrian thureophoroi, Illyrian thorakotai (sp?) or Chaonean guards anywhere. Illyrian tribal levies stopped being available once you upgraded your MIC in Dalmatia.
Standard thureophoroi could be hired as mercenaries, and IIRC thorakotai were available in some provinces if you destroyed your MIC or government building (forgot wich), but still.
So in the light of this, wich faction should I pick if I want one with the best working recruitment roster?

**Elthore** · 02-28-2006, 00:15

It seems as though they're all pretty messed and incomplete still, most are missing descriptions. The Getai seemed the most complete to me, though ive stopped playing until the patch comes out. An ancient source is much more fun to read than playing this.

oh, pontus isnt bad either, missing the elites, but seems not so buggy

**VandalCarthage** · 02-28-2006, 00:40

I recommend the Ptolemies and Baktrians; they really have the best overall appearance of completeness, though Pontus is also in passable shape.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-28-2006, 01:33

Grrr. Delete...

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 02-28-2006, 01:35

pontos is scheduled for a *lot* more units. There will be a later general unit, the chalkaspidai (a high infantry unit), their own akontistai, peltastai, hippakontistai from greek elements in the population, some other cool things I don't want to mention now, and I'm trying to twist Urnamma's arm for a royal infantry unit as an MIC5 infantry if he can find something reasonable. There are other anatolian regionals, at least two that aren't done yet but are on the way, that will figure into their recruitment a lot more too. They have a lot more to go actually. But they are in a good place to get lots of local units if they install allied governments. So they still are fun. Nikomedia is still a problem now though, but we're still working on unit recruitment in these places.

I'd suggest Koinon Hellenon also. Besides not having the Spartiates or the old-style hoplites yet, they still have most of the other units done. KH and Baktria and Getai do give really good feels for different types of play with good unit lists already complete.

**Joeokar** · 02-28-2006, 04:42

Sounds nice

**The Persian Cataphract** · 02-28-2006, 10:51

If you want a challenge, I recommend the Pahlava. Equestrian armies to take on two powerhouses: Bactria and the Seleucid empire.

**Elthore** · 03-02-2006, 02:19

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

pontos is scheduled for a *lot* more units. There will be a later general unit, the chalkaspidai (a high infantry unit), their own akontistai, peltastai, hippakontistai from greek elements in the population, some other cool things I don't want to mention now, and I'm trying to twist Urnamma's arm for a royal infantry unit as an MIC5 infantry if he can find something reasonable. There are other anatolian regionals, at least two that aren't done yet but are on the way, that will figure into their recruitment a lot more too. They have a lot more to go actually. But they are in a good place to get lots of local units if they install allied governments. So they still are fun. Nikomedia is still a problem now though, but we're still working on unit recruitment in these places.

thats good to hear... which of these units you think will make it into the next patch? Pontus has one of the funner campaign games i find(very humble beginings)

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 03-02-2006, 02:26

Again, no units will be in the patch. You would have to repack the whole thing to get new units or new building graphics. A lot more units are done now though, and will be in our next version release.

**Trithemius** · 03-14-2006, 23:00

On topic: The Romani are great!

Neat units - Roman units are quite fun, the early formations (h/p/t + light troops) give you a lot of variety in forming your line and you can take a historical recreation approach to your battle-plans, or just freely experiment. The current lack of dedicated auxiliaries to be recruited can be easily dealt with by recruiting Gallic or Hellenistic skirmisher, archer, and light cavalry and infantry units.
Triumphs, and other trait-stuff - I think the Roman submissions are really excellent since they have been a real inspiration for me to move outside my strategic "comfort zone" in order to make my leading commanders into heroic personalities. I think they also give an interesting glimpse of some rather fascinating aspects of Roman society; the same is true, to a lesser extent, of the cursus honorum and the various corona.
Challenging strategic situation - Rome is situated in the middle, and has a lot of options about where to go and what to do. A would-be imperator can concentrate on Gaul, or Illyria, or take sea voyages to despoil Greece or Carthage or Iberia. The way Roman legions are recruited also presents its own problems (i.e. challenges, i.e. fun!).

Going the Romani is a great choice, I think.

**pezhetairoi** · 03-15-2006, 02:59

I agree, now that my Romani campaign is in full speed ahead. You're always forced to return to the motherland before the coming of Marius to retrain or replenish, and that makes long-distance campaigns ever that difficult and challenging since there's always the chance of a counterattack from the enemy.