F R E A K teaching children

[Devastatin Dave]

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/...11920556c.html
Well isn't this nice. There is no way that this can be seen as contructed for kids. Children at such a young age should not be taught by the mentally ill. Sickening....
Not only are the homos trying to recruit at earlier age now the gender comfused have a foothold in the public schools. Thank God my kids will be going to private school.

[doc_bean]

Thank God my kids will be going to private school.

Have you considered home schooling ? They say it isn't just for religious wacko's anymore, but don't let that stop you !

[BigTex]

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/...11920556c.html
Well isn't this nice. There is no way that this can be seen as contructed for kids. Children at such a young age should not be taught by the mentally ill. Sickening....
Not only are the homos trying to recruit at earlier age now the gender comfused have a foothold in the public schools. Thank God my kids will be going to private school.

I don't see a single mention of her being mentally ill. As for her teaching your children maybe she'll teach them to be a bit more tollerant to new idea's, and different people, maybe they wont overreact and lynch the first gay person they see. Seriously there's nothing wrong with it, children are quite accepting and wont realize anything is wrong with her. Really and there's nothing wrong with this in the first place unless you believe religion and state shouldnt be seperated.

[discovery1]

Calvert School out of Baltamore is an excelent program if you do home school.

On topic, odd. It's ok if he doesn't go on on how great having a sex change is. Probably should mention that sex changes are only a good idea if you have sever issues.

Love how she says 'democracy in action' was 'magnificent'. She would be moaning and complaining if it were the other way, probably.

[Goofball]

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/...11920556c.html
Well isn't this nice. There is no way that this can be seen as contructed for kids. Children at such a young age should not be taught by the mentally ill. Sickening....
Not only are the homos trying to recruit at earlier age now the gender comfused have a foothold in the public schools. Thank God my kids will be going to private school.

I find it genuinely amusing how much this bugs you.



Another thing that tickled my funny bone about this story was this:

Vincent Mustacchio predicted "chaos" at the school when the students learned of McBeth's surgery.

If I had that guy's name (not to mention his out of whack view of the world), I'd never be able to introduce myself to anybody with a straight face.

[Duke Malcolm]

I don't see anything wrong as long as the teacher does not indoctrinate the children for her/his cause. By taking the job, however, s/he is putting him/herself up for whatever stick the pupils may give. The same goes for Gay people -- there are several gay teachers (it is up to the pupils to figure out who, though, no-one tells us) at my school. So long as they are not camp and too effeminate, then it is fine.

[Tachikaze]

"Despite criticism from parents, the school board on Monday stood by its decision to allow McBeth to resume working as a substitute teacher." (from the article)

Good for the school board! Occasionally, I see hope for the US.

I'd rather the children were taught tolerance and broad perspective than to have a parent teach them to call homosexuals "homos" and transsexuals "freaks".

[solypsist]

in before teh requisite YTMND links.

[Tribesman]

This is disgusting , 71 years old and still working .
Must have blown the pension fund on the operation .

I find it genuinely amusing how much this bugs you.

Well Goof if you look at this bit.....Not only are the homos trying to recruit at earlier age
I never knew they were recruited , does this mean Dave signed up for the wrong outfit by mistake when he joined the airforce ?
You know what they say about those that shout loudest against things .

Thank God my kids will be going to private school.
Have you considered sending them to military school , I believe the Airbourne are offering special video production studies in their new curriculum .
I wonder who "recruited" their latest film stars .

[Kralizec]

I for one would hate if I'd have to explain to my kids that because some people can't accept the way they were born, they have doctors cut off their johnson and their bodies mutilated to make them look female.
But I guess that I'm just a bigoted primitive, and that it's a good thing to let in our kids on the full spectrum of colorfull minds that we tolerate in our societies

I don't mind homosexual people, they can teach kids as far as I'm concerned (and explaining homosexuality should have a proper place in sex ed, once they're old enough)
As far as I'm concerned gender changes are unnatural (and I challenge you to argue against that!) and frankly, an obscenity. If people want to mutilate themselves, to each his own I guess but I don't want them near my children at an early age.

[Reverend Joe]

You know what they say about those that shout loudest against things .

And before I say anything else: this man has just as much right to teach as anyone else. Personally, I think there are much bigger "freaks" out there, pedophiles for example.

Now that that's out of the way: sex changes in general freak me out. I mean, I will be tolerant of them, but of all the things you can do to yourself...

[Goofball]

I for one would hate if I'd have to explain to my kids that because some people can't accept the way they were born, they have doctors cut off their johnson and their bodies mutilated to make them look female.

Why would you hate to have to explain that?

But I guess that I'm just a bigoted primitive, and that it's a good thing to let in our kids on the full spectrum of colorfull minds that we tolerate in our societies

I wouldn't say you're a bigoted primitive. You're just a normal human being who has normal aversions to things that society has always told you are "gross" or "freaky." But by keeping an open mind to things/people/ideas that differ from our views of the "norm" and by applying critical thinking to our own prejudices, we can often overcome our pre-programmed responses and live richer lives.

I don't mind homosexual people, they can teach kids as far as I'm concerned (and explaining homosexuality should have a proper place in sex ed, once they're old enough)

And I'm happy to hear you say that, as it confirms to me that you are willing to engage in the process I described above.

As far as I'm concerned gender changes are unnatural (and I challenge you to argue against that!) and frankly, an obscenity.

Of course gender changes are "unnatural." But that word really means nothing. Any medical modifications we do to our bodies are "unnatural." Here are some other things:

Organ transplants
Vasectomies
Hip replacements
Cosmetic surgery

Are all of those things "obscenities" as well?

If people want to mutilate themselves, to each his own I guess but I don't want them near my children at an early age.

Is it the mutilation you have a problem with generally, or is it specifically the mutilation of penises/vaginas that in your view disqualifies a person from teaching school?

[Xiahou]

I for one would hate if I'd have to explain to my kids that because some people can't accept the way they were born, they have doctors cut off their johnson and their bodies mutilated to make them look female.
But I guess that I'm just a bigoted primitive, and that it's a good thing to let in our kids on the full spectrum of colorfull minds that we tolerate in our societies

I hear ya. Personally, I'd say you're mental if you were born as one sex and then decide one day you'd rather be another. These people should be counseled, not operated on. People need to accept themselves for who they are and be comfortable with that. That's just my 2 cents.

"It was magnificent," McBeth said afterward. "You saw democracy in action."

Yeah right, more like strongarm lawyer tactics in action.

[ajaxfetish]

Well, I suppose I can support the school board allowing shim to continue teaching, as long as they don't *gasp* allow shim to fill those impressionable children's heads with stories of evolution!

I'm actually not sure how to feel about this one, personally, and so I'm kind of glad that it's someone else's problem. Anyhow, I think Kansas has a little something to learn from the schoolboards in Pennsylvania/New Jersey.

Ajax

[A.Saturnus]

I for one would hate if I'd have to explain to my kids that because some people can't accept the way they were born, they have doctors cut off their johnson and their bodies mutilated to make them look female.

You could explain them instead that some people have a rare disease with the name gender dysphoria for which the only cure is a sex change.

I don't mind homosexual people, they can teach kids as far as I'm concerned (and explaining homosexuality should have a proper place in sex ed, once they're old enough)
As far as I'm concerned gender changes are unnatural (and I challenge you to argue against that!) and frankly, an obscenity. If people want to mutilate themselves, to each his own I guess but I don't want them near my children at an early age.

All surgical operations are unnatural. Unfortunately (especially for the involved) they are often the only way to treat diseases. Gender dysphoria is such a case.
And please explain me what this has to do with homosexuals?

Now that that's out of the way: sex changes in general freak me out. I mean, I will be tolerant of them, but of all the things you can do to yourself...

If you had a third leg, wouldn't you want it to be cut off? If you would wake up tomorrow with your body being female, wouldn't you want to have your male parts back?
This person has felt female her whole life. Just her body was awfully wrong.

Children at such a young age should not be taught by the mentally ill.

Just a question, Dave would you have been fine if she hadn't had a sex change (and thus remaining mentally ill) instead of getting herself cured? Are we to keep mentally ill people out of the range of young children for their entire life (independent of treatment)? Considered that up to 30% of people will develope a mental illness at least once in their life, that would make a fine society. And what precisely is the danger anyway? That she will encourage children to be unhappy with their biological sex?
Nice way to speak about mentally ill people BTW. Can we expect your next thread about a member of an ethnic minority to include any funny names as well?

[Viking]

As long as he do what he`s supposed to do, then there is, of course no problems with this.

[Strike For The South]

does this remind anyone else of South Park?

[Goofball]

does this remind anyone else of South Park?

And Chef would be the one to explain the situation to the children. He could start by singing them a song about a time he was "making sweet, sweet love to his woman."

[Kanamori]

does this remind anyone else of South Park?

Finally, my feeling about the issue has been described with words.

[A.Saturnus]

I hear ya. Personally, I'd say you're mental if you were born as one sex and then decide one day you'd rather be another. These people should be counseled, not operated on. People need to accept themselves for who they are and be comfortable with that. That's just my 2 cents.

It's called mentally ill, not "mental". And counseling them has been tried for decades, it doesn't work. Or more precisely, all gender dysphoric are required to get counseling before a sex change is allowed. It has to be assessed that counseling does not improve their condition. If it does, they are not diagnosed as gender dysphoric. That this person got a sex change implies that a team of health care professionals agreed that it is necessary.

And by the way, no one "decides one day" that you want another sex. All gender dysphoric people have a history of distress with their bodies from early childhood. It isn't a disease you get overnight but something that haunts you your entire life, unless you get treatment, and that includes sex change.

[Goofball]

It's called mentally ill, not "mental". And counseling them has been tried for decades, it doesn't work. Or more precisely, all gender dysphoric are required to get counseling before a sex change is allowed. It has to be assessed that counseling does not improve their condition. If it does, they are not diagnosed as gender dysphoric. That this person got a sex change implies that a team of health care professionals agreed that it is necessary.

And by the way, no one "decides one day" that you want another sex. All gender dysphoric people have a history of distress with their bodies from early childhood. It isn't a disease you get overnight but something that haunts you your entire life, unless you get treatment, and that includes sex change.

*assumes indulgent/condescending tone*

Oh, A. Saturnus, A. Saturnus, A. Saturnus...

You're missing the whole point.

The point is that people who are in any way sexually different from the mainstream are icky, and worthy of nothing but scorn.

The sooner you get that through your head, the easier things will be for you in the Backroom.

*pats A. Saturnus on the head good-naturedly*

Now, take your crazy little ideas outside and play with the other liberals. You little scamp you...

[Strike For The South]

I have an idea why not say in the name of equaling the genders each semester will be devoted to one of the sexes. i mean the kids are little when I was that age a bear couldve tuaght me and I wouldntve cared.

[Proletariat]

You could explain them instead that some people have a rare disease with the name gender dysphoria for which the only cure is a sex change.

I'd like to add to this because I find this misleading unless you also touch on the other myriad of quite arbitrary DSM IV labels that are almost always slapped on these folks as well. Saying this operation is a cure for gender dysphoria is akin to saying a bandage is a cure for a severed limb.

I've never heard of a patient who's only diagnosis was gender dysphoria and became perfectly mentally healthy after their operation. Just because these patients just about never regret their operation, doesn't mean it's a cut and dry 'cure.'

[lars573]

I for one would hate if I'd have to explain to my kids that because some people can't accept the way they were born, they have doctors cut off their johnson and their bodies mutilated to make them look female.

That is a myth about the male to female sex change. The only part of the male genetals that are out right removed in a sex change is the testicles. The penis is inverted to form the new vagina.

[Kanamori]

Weird stuff... it was posted by dave.

At least it is something that I could only read here.

[Major Robert Dump]

The real question is if I had sex with "Lily" would that make me gay?

[Redleg]

The real question is if I had sex with "Lily" would that make me gay?

Don't know for sure - but it would make "Lily" a cradle robber since the stated age of Lily was 71.

Or it could just mean yor just freaky for the older crowd.

[Papewaio]

Just remember Major be a gentleman... flowers and chocolates afterwards...

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I would prefer anyone with a history of severe mental illness not to be in charge of children or as a role model.

[Xiahou]

And by the way, no one "decides one day" that you want another sex. All gender dysphoric people have a history of distress with their bodies from early childhood. It isn't a disease you get overnight but something that haunts you your entire life, unless you get treatment, and that includes sex change.

Pretty sure that's not true- there have been cases of "feelings" not developing until puberty or even into adulthood, which is probably the case with this man since he didnt get the procedure until 71.

I've never heard of a patient who's only diagnosis was gender dysphoria and became perfectly mentally healthy after their operation. Just because these patients just about never regret their operation, doesn't mean it's a cut and dry 'cure.'

I'd say it's no cure at all- it's indulging in their disorder, not fixing it. If I became convinced that I was a Hobbit, would I be cured if you shortened my legs?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

And put hair on your feet.

Come to think about it, being a Hobbit would be pretty awesome.