F R E A K teaching children

[Viking]

Oh brother....

People are born with elleven fingers, as homosexuals, as mad; but not with the wrong physical gender?

You don`t have to be mentally ill because of that. Although he/she/whateva did appear a bit desperat...

[A.Saturnus]

I've never heard of a patient who's only diagnosis was gender dysphoria and became perfectly mentally healthy after their operation. Just because these patients just about never regret their operation, doesn't mean it's a cut and dry 'cure.'

Not only is there ample clinical evidence of just that, I personally know transsexuals that feel that way.

Pretty sure that's not true- there have been cases of "feelings" not developing until puberty or even into adulthood, which is probably the case with this man since he didnt get the procedure until 71.

Most transsexuals don't realize what exactly is the problem until they are adolescents or adults, but usually they experience themselves to be different quite early. 71 is admittedly an extreme case.
It's not known what causes gender dysphoria, but some theories say that it has to do with hormonale imbalances before birth.

I'd say it's no cure at all- it's indulging in their disorder, not fixing it. If I became convinced that I was a Hobbit, would I be cured if you shortened my legs?

What is relevant is the reduction of distress. Telling them to accept themselves as they are may suit your perception of the world as normal, but it doesn't help transsexuals. That's as if you tell clinical depressed people not to let themselves down.

[A.Saturnus]

I see a huge difference between being homosexual and having a gender change.

For me gender change is similar to being ashamed of who you are... like Michael Jackson wanting to be white, or racists who hate their ethnic background...

I'm not convinced that it is a legitmate medical procedure... if it was then it would/should be payed out of the public purse. And if it was payed out of the public purse I would be querying why other priority treatments for burn and cancer wards were being demoted for a gender change.

Transsexuals aren't ashamed of themselves. Normally it has nothing to do with the social role of a sex, but the body itself. If it is only the social role that doesn't fit, than one isn't transsexual.
If gender dysphoria is diagnosed, the sex change is payed by the public purse in most countries.

[A.Saturnus]

Oh, get bent with your moral high ground and your bull **** attempt to paint this as anywhere close to me being a racist.

I don't need to paint you as anything, you do that yourself. But to decide how close it actually is, that I will leave over to the Mods.

[Viking]

Born in the wrong body? Are you saying that God or someone equally high up made a little mistake, and put a female mind in a male body? That it's in fact, a perfectly sane female mind trapped in a male body? It's a friggin mental disorder, and while I don't mean to marginalise their ordeals and do feel sorry for them, they're not normal.

No, it`s not a mental disorder....yes it was a female mind trapped inside a male body. For some time ago I read about a girl that cried every time she showered because of her (wrong) body. She also had a girlfriend, but didn`t feel lesbian at all. I saw an image of her. If it wasn`t for that I`d read the story, I`d never known that he earlier was a girl. I believ it`s called trance-sexuality, or something equal.

At this point I expect you to tell me "but if the surgery is really good the kids don't need to know!"

Kids doesn`t need to know anything about their teacher, they are there to learn about school subjects.

[A.Saturnus]

For all the "publicly" "tolerant" actors...
I wish your male child becomes homosexual and does a sex change at the age of 30 after having 2 kids with his/her wife.
Then you might take off the "politically correct" mask...

Hellenes

Wishing someone else's children to have a mental illness is a disgusting thing. You should be ashamed for yourself.

[A.Saturnus]

No, it`s not a mental disorder....

As I stated above, it is a mental disorder. And the cure is sex change.

[Xiahou]

As I stated above, it is a mental disorder. And the cure is sex change.

And the cure for alcoholism is a fifth of whiskey. Remember, it's all about reducing distress.

[Devastatin Dave]

I don't need to paint you as anything, you do that yourself. But to decide how close it actually is, that I will leave over to the Mods.

Well, we know where they'll stand. You can call me a bigot and a racist without a blink because of who you are while I'll probably get a warning for telling you to get bent. So get bent...

[Devastatin Dave]

Will any of you look at the picture and honestly tell me you want this thing teaching your kids? Too bad we have some very dishonest individuals in here playing politically correct sea captains in the torrential ocean of intolerance. You guys are beyond belief. Thankfully your utter lack of common sense is well insolated in these forums because I know for a fact that most of you "preaching" right now would NEVER EVER practice what your preach. Message board hypocrites, the majority of you self rightious fakes.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Will any of you look at the picture and honestly tell me you want this thing teaching your kids?

Yes.



I'm actually amazed at the amount of disgust some of you are expressing.

[Devastatin Dave]

Yes.



I'm actually amazed at the amount of disgust some of you are expressing.

Good for you.
"It puts the lotion on the skin or it gets the hose again"
I guess Saturnus is our resident Dr Lecture.

[Papewaio]

Transsexuals aren't ashamed of themselves. Normally it has nothing to do with the social role of a sex, but the body itself. If it is only the social role that doesn't fit, than one isn't transsexual.
If gender dysphoria is diagnosed, the sex change is payed by the public purse in most countries.

Gender is a society influenced role. However I don't agree with the public purse being used to change the gender of a person. I think part of the proof that they really need to change gender is that they are willing to fully pay for it.

Also on a wider scale I would prefer to see public money spent on what I consider higher priority scenarios...

[Byzantine Prince]

As I stated above, it is a mental disorder. And the cure is sex change.

Ok, but why not some psychotherapy?



Sex change is not really a cure, biologically, that guy is still a man. Sex changes are about aesthetics.

[Major Robert Dump]

I think the pictures of lily belong in teh babe thread, so please stop posting them here

[Goofball]

Just look at this freak1!!!!!113!4176!8432167432690!oneseven!one!

I'm confused.

Conservatives in this thread seem to be putting a lot of stock in physical appearance, saying that they wouldn't want somebody who looked like this teaching their kids.

But quite frankly, as far as physical appearances go, I don't see a lot of difference between "Lily" and this:



Yet you guys not only elected as President the man who had the poor judgment to marry such an obvious freak, but you subsequently elected the freak's offspring as President twice!

Mother of God!

[Major Robert Dump]

And While I'm Here, Let Me Express My Disappointment That No One In The Backroom Has Used The Term tranny Granny In This Thread Until Now.

[Goofball]

Will any of you look at the picture and honestly tell me you want this thing teaching your kids? Too bad we have some very dishonest individuals in here playing politically correct sea captains in the torrential ocean of intolerance. You guys are beyond belief. Thankfully your utter lack of common sense is well insolated in these forums because I know for a fact that most of you "preaching" right now would NEVER EVER practice what your preach. Message board hypocrites, the majority of you self rightious fakes.

Don't project your own biases onto the rest of us Dave. And no, I am not saying I don't have any biases. I'm just saying that mine are clearly different from yours. Example: I would honestly (and I know you find this hard to believe, but whatever) be quite comfortable having my kid in this woman's class. On the other hand, I would be very uncomfortable having my son's class be taught by an acknowledged Christian (or Muslim, or just about any religion) fundamentalist.

I've got my bias, you've got yours.

At any rate, you just finished throwing a big hissy fit a few posts back because there was a hint of you possibly being called a racist. Then you have the balls to throw this crap around?

Nice...

[Ice]

I'm going to join the minority party here and agree with Dave on this issue. Keep it up.

[Kanamori]

And While I'm Here, Let Me Express My Disappointment That No One In The Backroom Has Used The Term tranny Granny In This Thread Until Now.

Dood you,re off the hook. Hang up now!

[Redleg]

Dood you,re off the hook. Hang up now!

Well he is from Oklahoma. They have some problems - just watch Jerry Springer sometime. Most of his guests are from Trailer Parks in either the Tulsa or OKC area. (Except for the few that come from the Trailer parks around Little Rock.)

Tranny Granny is a popular pasttime is several of the trailer parks in Oklahoma from what I hear.

They call it Tranny Granny in the Trailer by the Jailer On the way they fill the pail by rail with the bile on the way to the jail escorted by the Jailer who was pimping Granny in the Trailer so he could fill the jail to collect some bail.

[Strike For The South]

I can watch cops and fill in my faimily tree..Im a white trash sensi

[Devastatin Dave]

I'm confused.

Conservatives in this thread seem to be putting a lot of stock in physical appearance, saying that they wouldn't want somebody who looked like this teaching their kids.

But quite frankly, as far as physical appearances go, I don't see a lot of difference between "Lily" and this:



Yet you guys not only elected as President the man who had the poor judgment to marry such an obvious freak, but you subsequently elected the freak's offspring as President twice!

Mother of God!

At least she has (had) a functioning vagina and not a bananna split drilled into her.

[Kanamori]

Seriously, what are you guys on about? I've no idea.





Crazy arse Texans.


Edit: Since one cannot tell the difference between the two types of ugly, one wonders how having a 'banana split' impairs their ability to teach well.

[Redleg]

I can watch cops and fill in my faimily tree..Im a white trash sensi

Only when you are a guest on Jerry Springer (A surprise guest invited to learn a family secret) and make an espisode of Cops as the featured arrest all in the same day.

[Soulforged]

Will any of you look at the picture and honestly tell me you want this thing teaching your kids? Too bad we have some very dishonest individuals in here playing politically correct sea captains in the torrential ocean of intolerance. You guys are beyond belief. Thankfully your utter lack of common sense is well insolated in these forums because I know for a fact that most of you "preaching" right now would NEVER EVER practice what your preach. Message board hypocrites, the majority of you self rightious fakes.

I can't tell you through a picture, that doesn't talk about the person. However I'm pretty sure that I'll not want someone with so many prejudices teaching my kids. If you only judge a person by a sexual election, or not (because in this case he couldn't choose freely), or even worse because of a picture or even an article then that tells a lot about your psyche.

[Divinus Arma]

I don't get it. Really, I don't.

We all seem to agree that this individual has a mental disorder. What we disgaree on is: (a) How to treat the disorder, and (b) Whether a man physically mutilated to resemble a woman should be in a position of influence over children.

Being an ardent supporter of democracy, I say Let the freak cut off his cock and make him teach at a different school. At the school board nobody is contesting whether to let Mr. Freak teach. They just want him to teach at a different school where he will not be exposed to students who knew him as a man.

[Major Robert Dump]

Does anyone know what they do with the beans and franks when they remove them? Can you take them home afterwards? Or maybe they save them to stick on the woman who always wanted to be a man.

Any way you cut it, Lily is HAWT. I would totally have a threesome with her and Janet Reno

http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/j...s_respect.html

[Slyspy]

I cannot honestly say that having a transsexual teach my kids wouldn't be a little unusual and take some getting used to but I would not be against it. As with all teachers, it is about teaching ability more than anything else. It does seem that relocation to another school would have been wise, but perhaps she thought that she would be more accepted where she was known previous to the op?

Seems perfectly legit to me to treat a mental disorder of this kind with surgery. As mentioned, it reduces the sufferer's distress considerably and few have regrets.

Some confuson between transsexual and homosexual in this thread. Also DevDave's ranting and and bluster is quite amusing, so keep it up!

[Major Robert Dump]

Well he is from Oklahoma. They have some problems - just watch Jerry Springer sometime. Most of his guests are from Trailer Parks in either the Tulsa or OKC area. (Except for the few that come from the Trailer parks around Little Rock.)

Tranny Granny is a popular pasttime is several of the trailer parks in Oklahoma from what I hear.

They call it Tranny Granny in the Trailer by the Jailer On the way they fill the pail by rail with the bile on the way to the jail escorted by the Jailer who was pimping Granny in the Trailer so he could fill the jail to collect some bail.

That last paragraph would make a good rap, if you want to start a rap band I can play accordian and I know a couple of midgets