Bliar is a Jesus botherer

[InsaneApache]

What to say?

and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well," Mr Blair said.

The mans a menace.

Messiah!

[Csargo]

Prime Minister Tony Blair says he prayed to God when deciding whether or not to send UK troops to Iraq.

Mr Blair answered "yes"

Well if God told him it was right to make war on Iraq it must have been right

At least now we know Gods on our side right

[Byzantine Mercenary]

Tony blairs church (the Church of England) was against the war. even the arch bishop protested, god doesn't like wars, whatever happens in them its his children that die.

[Kralizec]

Well if God told him it was right to make war on Iraq it must have been right

At least now we know Gods on our side right

Well actually president Bush literally claimed that God told him to invade Iraq, so who are we to disagree?

[econ21]

Give Blair a break. If you were a Christian it would be a bit strange not to grapple with a life or death decision like whether to go to war in your prayers. And rather bizarre to think God would not judge you for what you decided.

[JAG]

If I am honest I find it rather disgusting, in my view at least a Labour prime minister should not be consulting God or engaging in wars, simple as that.

[Kraxis]

That he prayed to God does not mean that God told him to go... He would just as well have asked for guidance.

[Csargo]

This is pretty much a pointless arguement because you can't prove if God told anybody anything so if Tony says that than do you believe him or not thats the only question you should ask yourself

[Duke of Gloucester]

He is not quoted as saying that God told him to invade Iraq. He says that he asked for guidance before making the decision and always had in mind that he would be judged by more than public opinion - that he would face God's judgement as well as the electorate. Both of these are entirely natural for a Christian and he has not disguised the fact he is a Christian, so unless we are saying that Christians should not be Prime Minister we can not object to the article contents. We might be embarrassed by politicians referring to their own faith, but the article suggests that Parky brought the subject up, not Blair.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I think God has pretty clearly explained to us that he doesn't want this war:

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444
(warning offensive pictures)

[Scurvy]

he did say "if", i havnt seen it, but was he reffering to himslef or in general?

[econ21]

He believes in God, so the "if" refers to himself. Bear in mind here, what he was talking about is who will judge his action - other people, God etc - not who told him to do it.

[Fragony]

I think God has pretty clearly explained to us that he doesn't want this war:

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444
(warning offensive pictures)

Awww if god didn't want them naked they would have been born with clothes. All part of the bigger picure mia muca.

[Slyspy]

Tony blairs church (the Church of England) was against the war. even the arch bishop protested, god doesn't like wars, whatever happens in them its his children that die.

Blair is IIRC a Catholic not a Protestant. In which case although the C. of E. is the, for want of a better term, the state religion it is not his personal church.

Or it may be his wife who is Catholic. I forget, and can't be bothered to check.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Awww if god didn't want them naked they would have been born with clothes. All part of the bigger picure mia muca.

Yes, so look at the American sinners, who despises the Lord and wear clothes in those pics!

[Fragony]

Yes, so look at the American sinners, who despises the Lord and wear clothes in those pics!

You silly, the clothes the Americans on these pictures are wearing were photoshopped so american kids don't get traumatised by frontal nudity

[Rodion Romanovich]

As bad as it feels to joke about these things, I must smile at your linguistical creativity

[Banquo's Ghost]

Blair is IIRC a Catholic not a Protestant. In which case although the C. of E. is the, for want of a better term, the state religion it is not his personal church.

Or it may be his wife who is Catholic. I forget, and can't be bothered to check.

Mr Blair is currently a member of the Church of England, whereas his wife is a Catholic. However, he does attend mass with her and there was a bit of a constitutional discussion about him actually being accepted into the Church.

As to the original topic, I'm no fan of the Prime Minister, but it's not particularly odd that he should seek guidance for his conscience from his God about sending men to war.

It would have been better if he had sought advice on the ethics of lying to Parliament about the immediacy of the danger, and trusting Parliament to guide him on how to deal with the alleged threat by furnishing it with the intelligence he really had.

Then he might not have had to agonise about sending men to their deaths.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

i think it went something like this :

parkinson: who do you think will judge you on your decision to go to war with iraq?
bliar: well i think future historians and, if you belive in him as i do, God will judge me for my decision but i prayed before the decision to think of the correct choice to make

so it isn't exactly 'god has guided me to war' and what is wrong with being a christian? i am an athiest but why can't our leaders be religious, what's wong with it?

[Strike For The South]

This god fellow seems to be part of all the big decsions lately.

[BigTex]

I really dont see what the fuss is about. The guy is religious, wouldnt come as much of a shock that he prayed prior to going to war. He was risking thousands of lives, anything to calm ones nerves at that point should be used.

What to say?


Quote:
and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well," Mr Blair said.


The mans a menace.

Would you also be complaining if a budhist prime minister said he meditated before making a major decision that involved your country?

[Red Peasant]

Don't worry, it's just reactionary Tories getting all in a lather about an innocent remark by the man they love to hate. The man was just examining his conscience. I'm just surprised that any politician has one!

[Scurvy]

its something to celebrate

[ShadesPanther]

I don't really see the fuss about this. He really just said about his conscience and how God will judge him. Same really as any other christian making decisions that affect other people's lives.
At least he didn't say God told him to do it. People would be worried if the leader of a major power with nuclear weapons started hearing voices, divine or not.

[A.Saturnus]

parkinson: who do you think will judge you on your decision to go to war with iraq?
bliar: well i think future historians and, if you belive in him as i do, God will judge me for my decision but i prayed before the decision to think of the correct choice to make

Well, this is how it should have been:

parkinson: who do you think will judge you on your decision to go to war with iraq?
bliar: thankfully, not the voters

[makkyo]

If you care to read the article, Blair prays for his conscience. Sending people into war is no easy decision, and he needed all of the support he could get. Is believing that there is something out there better than yourself such a crime? It is horrible that people are so scared to admit their faith to the public. Nothing is wrong with being religious. You all are fools.

[Tribesman]

Mr Blair is currently a member of the Church of England, whereas his wife is a Catholic.
So both his and his wifes churches were against the invasion .

At the time of the invasion he said let history be the judge of his actions in going to war .
Now that history looks like it is going to judge him very badly for the descision , he is delaying the judgement and leaving it till his death .

[BigTex]

Now that history looks like it is going to judge him very badly for the descision , he is delaying the judgement and leaving it till his death .

Come on he's merely stating what he did prior to sending thousands of men to their possible graves, to widowing thousands of women, to killing thousands of fathers. He didn't even know at that point that there werent chemical/biological weapons pointed towards his soldiers. What would you have done to calm yourself in order to make the proper decision, one that would resound throughout history as either horribly wrong or completely correct?
Also would you be complaining if he was part of a diyonus cult and he had a drunken orgy prior to making this decision, instead of praying?

[Papewaio]

WWJD

What Would Judas Do?

Well he would probably have done the same as the AWB... Australian Wheat Board... and spent about $300 000 000 in kickbacks to Saddam even as Australia was about to go to war against him...

[Slyspy]

What I find most annoying is that he believes that history and God will judge him. This is a belief not uncommon in the less stable of world leaders and not a trait I like to see in the leader of my nation. He doesn't work for history or for God, he works for the nation and its people, and they shall judge him first.