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    you know, I hate going on RTW or watching the News and seeing People Dissing RTW and Protestng about us.

    We are a Really Generous Nation, but Less Respected..We Gave Billions of bucks and forgive other of debts doing WW2.now,those counties aren't even paying the intersit to our debts.when France was going down in 1956,we came in and help, then the French BS about us.when Earrthquakres and Tsunamis Hit Countries,we Help. When it Happens to Us Americans, NO ONE HELPS. you know why,they selfish.period. we help,but no help in return.we Stuck Billions of bucks in depressed nations,and now they writing in News paper of How we are War Mongers..

    I like to See Contirues HELP Us and Respect us. look at Tri Sanka, Famils got wipe out, kids lost their Partents. ok,we help them. but look at NEw Orelans, Kids aslo Lost their Partents, but No One Helps us. you can BS all you what "that what you get for living in a hole" that bascilly what Orelans is,a Hole. but Come on, Tri Sanka Was a Island, and it was always Dirt Poor, so don't compalin.

    what you guys think??

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    We got a lot of foreign aid for Katrina....

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    Which galaxy is that you are daydreaming, BHCWarman88 ? Maybe you can help me get there as a generous American and so that I can start thinking "Oh why do they hate us?"

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    First off, your grammar needs work, try the Spell Check button two buttons right of the Post button. Second, to reply directly to you, I am not one who hates America, but when you say "we Stuck Billions of bucks in depressed nations,and now they writing in News paper of How we are War Mongers.." do you mean Iraq?... because last I checked you stuck billions in your military budget to take over that country. Second, America has often times used the excuse of "But we gave them X million dollars" to avoid helping countries in the present. Other countries expect the strongest country economically to be able to help itself, seeing as how it has millions of others in other cities spread across the nation that could instantly jump to the help of New Orleans, while those who live in small impoverished countries have small populations who all need help. That's why you can let a large country like America deal with its own problems.
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    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    I like to See Contirues HELP Us and Respect us.
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    "We that are strong ought to bear up the infirmities of the weak, and not please ourselves" - The Bible

    Something like that... Nobody would expect a starving, Somalian kid with HIV to help Bill Gates when he's caught a cold, while everybody expects Bill Gates to give at least something to charity such as research against HIV. If you don't want to give, don't give. But those you give help to now and haven't bombed recently will thank you later when/if you would go through a real crisis. The Katrina hurricane, which I assume is the case you're mainly talking about, couldn't have been handled that much better if other countries had helped, I'm afraid. It's your decision if you want to keep giving aid or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalmoxis
    First off, your grammar needs work, try the Spell Check button two buttons right of the Post button. Second, to reply directly to you, I am not one who hates America, but when you say "we Stuck Billions of bucks in depressed nations,and now they writing in News paper of How we are War Mongers.." do you mean Iraq?... because last I checked you stuck billions in your military budget to take over that country. Second, America has often times used the excuse of "But we gave them X million dollars" to avoid helping countries in the present. Other countries expect the strongest country economically to be able to help itself, seeing as how it has millions of others in other cities spread across the nation that could instantly jump to the help of New Orleans, while those who live in small impoverished countries have small populations who all need help. That's why you can let a large country like America deal with its own problems.
    I agree with all your points, except for the first one. Why complain about his spelling and grammar? The post was perfectly comprehendable...

    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
    The second part is Touche'd...(the first one would be too, but I've seen some uglies around... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
    Keep telling yourself that.

    How about this, Britain is counting down to the time when we will finally be able to say we owe America nothing, because we've paid it all back.

    As to New Orleans, well you should have been able to handle it yourselves and you got aid anyway so stop complaining.
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    I personally get fed up regularly with European ignorance. What gets me most is those European singers/actors/antiamerican american actors/politicos who blame the U.S.A. for things like the way Africa is. Quickly forgetting it was European colonialism that fubared that place, and protesting that the U.S.A. should pay the most to help them. To quote many of those Frenchy's who dont want anything to do with the Iraq problem "You broke it you fix it.". I also find it ironic whenever a European protests any U.S. deal that benefits us as Imperialism and Colonialism. Are they some how forgetting that alot of nations held colonies well past WWII . I think we need to send alot of those protestor's to a chinese re-education camp, ahhhhh slave made clothing is always the best..
    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
    Complete Truthyness right there South.
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    Hey, your from Pittsburgh! I just moved from around that area, good city.

    The question you asked is pretty loaded. Good luck finding a straight answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    I like to See Contirues HELP Us and Respect us. look at Tri Sanka, Famils got wipe out, kids lost their Partents. ok,we help them. but look at NEw Orelans, Kids aslo Lost their Partents, but No One Helps us. you can BS all you what "that what you get for living in a hole" that bascilly what Orelans is,a Hole. but Come on, Tri Sanka Was a Island, and it was always Dirt Poor, so don't compalin.

    what you guys think??
    Well, people like you are a reason, people that think that because people are against the US they must be evil and not know how great you are.

    Oh yes, and its "Sri Lanka" (If i get what you are talking about, i dont get anything about a place called "Tri Sanka")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall
    Keep telling yourself that.

    How about this, Britain is counting down to the time when we will finally be able to say we owe America nothing, because we've paid it all back.
    WW2 tech-sharing, meant to be reciprocal but in practice entirely one-way. Technology thus "shared" deemed to be worth several times what Britain received in Marshall aid, lend lease and other loans combined. British statesmen and diplomats of the time, from Keynes to Churchill, weren't impressed. In similar incidents, Eden called the terms for the 50 destroyers "unfriendly negotiations", while Keynes walked out of the lend-lease talks, declaring he wasn't going to "sign over the British empire".

    Britain is grateful to America for her help in WW2, but by heck we paid through the nose for it.

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    SFTS said it all. This thread is fruitless from now on. My man the GMoAtT, Hoorrraaay !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    you know, I hate going on RTW or watching the News and seeing People Dissing RTW and Protestng about us.
    Might I enquire as to the meaning of "Dissing"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
    I agree with all your points, except for the first one. Why complain about his spelling and grammar? The post was perfectly comprehendable...
    I had great difficulty in extrapolating the points of some of the post, and only was sure of it after several readings...

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTex
    I personally get fed up regularly with European ignorance. What gets me most is those European singers/actors/antiamerican american actors/politicos who blame the U.S.A. for things like the way Africa is. Quickly forgetting it was European colonialism that fubared that place, and protesting that the U.S.A. should pay the most to help them. To quote many of those Frenchy's who dont want anything to do with the Iraq problem "You broke it you fix it.". I also find it ironic whenever a European protests any U.S. deal that benefits us as Imperialism and Colonialism. Are they some how forgetting that alot of nations held colonies well past WWII . I think we need to send alot of those protestor's to a chinese re-education camp, ahhhhh slave made clothing is always the best...
    I personally get fed up when ignorant folks say European colonialism is to blame for the way Africa is. It has more to do with the speed at which independence was attained, due to pressure put on the European governments by the USA amongst others, and also to do with the fact the governments have become largely corrupt and distrustful affairs...

    As for the "You broke it, you fix it", that seems perfectly true. Why should those countries who did not want to and did not depose the legitimate (if somewhat cruel) leader of a nation help in repairing that nation? It is the duty of those countries who removed the original government, "broke" it, to ensure the successive government is run fairly and that there is better civil order, "fix" it.

    You should perhaps research better the European colonial empires...
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    to do with the speed at which independence was attained, due to pressure put on the European governments by the USA amongst others, and also to do with the fact the governments have become largely corrupt and distrustful affairs...
    Europe pulled out to fast and you still find a way to blame the U.S.A. Instead of mention the constant civil rights abuses that went on down there and the medical experiments on humans (Oral polio vaccine anyone?) you just flatly blame the U.S. as bullying Europe out.
    We should also forget how European colonialism helped spur on the development of radical Islam in the middle east. But hey its popular right now to blame the U.S.A. for everything, so sling it on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian
    WW2 tech-sharing, meant to be reciprocal but in practice entirely one-way. Technology thus "shared" deemed to be worth several times what Britain received in Marshall aid, lend lease and other loans combined. British statesmen and diplomats of the time, from Keynes to Churchill, weren't impressed. In similar incidents, Eden called the terms for the 50 destroyers "unfriendly negotiations", while Keynes walked out of the lend-lease talks, declaring he wasn't going to "sign over the British empire".

    Britain is grateful to America for her help in WW2, but by heck we paid through the nose for it.
    So true, and probably still paying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTex
    I personally get fed up regularly with European ignorance. What gets me most is those European singers/actors/antiamerican american actors/politicos who blame the U.S.A. for things like the way Africa is. Quickly forgetting it was European colonialism that fubared that place, and protesting that the U.S.A. should pay the most to help them. To quote many of those Frenchy's who dont want anything to do with the Iraq problem "You broke it you fix it.". I also find it ironic whenever a European protests any U.S. deal that benefits us as Imperialism and Colonialism. Are they some how forgetting that alot of nations held colonies well past WWII . I think we need to send alot of those protestor's to a chinese re-education camp, ahhhhh slave made clothing is always the best..

    Complete Truthyness right there South.
    you do have a point.. you said it better then I could..

    and that one guy,ghost

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    The question you asked is pretty loaded. Good luck finding a straight answer"

    yeah,where you use to live at??



    anyhow,
    blame USA for everything, it is popluar I guess. Europe never does anything wrong,now do they??....

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    I think one reason why america is "hated", i dont know any figures, but im pretty sure by "energy use" per head it is far higher than most other countries in world (and is seen as being reluctant to do anything about it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTex
    Europe pulled out to fast and you still find a way to blame the U.S.A. Instead of mention the constant civil rights abuses that went on down there and the medical experiments on humans (Oral polio vaccine anyone?) you just flatly blame the U.S. as bullying Europe out.
    We should also forget how European colonialism helped spur on the development of radical Islam in the middle east. But hey its popular right now to blame the U.S.A. for everything, so sling it on.
    Europe pulled out too fast due to pressure from the U.S.A.. If you are going to comment on a post do make sure the post has been thoroughly read.
    And of course, the U.S. was faultless during the times of European colonialism, wasn't it? It didn't continue holding slaves long after the British Empire had abolish the keeping and trading of Slaves, and even split in two when it was proposed that slavery is abolished. I think that black people in the British African colonies had it just as bad as the black people in America...
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
    Yeah! That`s it!

    Your porn industry is bigger than anyone elses as well. Why would anyone hat America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    There jelaous as Americans we are handsome sexy smart level headed and frankly other nation cant handle that combanation of American supremacy. It really gets to people but Ive learned to live with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88
    blame USA for everything, it is popluar I guess. Europe never does anything wrong,now do they??....
    no we have never done anything wrong... ever

    but seriously usa is worse at humanitarian rights... eg guantanimo bay (did i spell that right?)
    but the reason usa annoys me is cos on all imported american tv british people are either portrayed as dirty cockney children or posh men wearing top-hats saying 'right-ho old chap' and that kind of total BS... and everyone who i know (or knew) from the us on msn messanger, after i say i am from plymouth in england, they say 'is that, like, near London?' but i suppose that's what you get for living in a hardly recognisable city... even if it was the site of where many of the first ships to set off from england to the new world

    and how come there are always 'why does everyone hate america?' threads and no 'why does everyone hate wales?' threads... i mean i insult the welsh way more than the usa and the french come to that, in fact i insult lots of people... hmm... i am off to drink tea and insult some rather silly looking foreigners, right-ho old fellow *puts on monacle and leaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHCWarman88

    and that one guy,ghost

    "Hey, your from Pittsburgh! I just moved from around that area, good city.

    The question you asked is pretty loaded. Good luck finding a straight answer"

    yeah,where you use to live at??
    I lived in a town called wexford, about 15 miles north of Pittsburgh. I now live west of Detroit in Michigan.



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    GiantMonkeyMan, Ok,where we suppose to keep Terrsiots at?? Rich Brits Houses and give them Tea?? lol,last time some crap like that happen, you guys got your buses/subway bombed,right??

    Hey Ghost,
    that cool, I been in Wexford few times.. :-) :-)

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    This is the kind of post I'd write and then delete afterwards, but I think I'll post it anyway.

    There are several different Americas that we can look at here. All have some folks who dislike it, "hate" often being too strong a word to use here. The key thing is that hate is irrational, and there is a difference with disagreement and hate. Be able to tell the hateful BS and the respectful disagreement apart. The reasons they have for disliking America as a state are usually due the mistakes we've made in foreign policy and our territorial expansion. While we did help rebuild Europe and Japan, I think they are seeing this as a "What have you done for me lately" world, and that we're a big, trouble-making bully.

    Some hate America, Inc. I have a suspicion that the only contact with America that many of these folks get is from McDonalds and Microsoft. Ever heard of "McWorld"? To these folks, America is the embodiment of faceless consumerism, and we Americans are mindless sheep, serving the Megacorps as they seek to mass-produce all products, remove all individualism, stomp on puppies, and take their pr0n away. Others just think Coca-Cola tastes bad.

    Some hate "Americans", or "ze Amereekans". We are stereotyped as obese, self-important puritanical corporate slaves addicted to lowbrow entertainment. Oh, and we're also really stupid, too. Our display of patriotism also bothers many. In post-9/11 patriotism, we've agreed to give support to "The Man" in order to eliminate our enemies. However, their distrust of power has them see this as more sheep-like devotion to a rogue state out to take all the oil from the world and drain innocent Arab blood for use in slip-n-slide parties. And then others just think country music and rap are silly.

    I've begun to exaggerate. Anti-americanism has many forms, some of it being a disagreement with our national problem-solving methods, other forms of it being a rejection of popular, standard things to appear more "sophisticated" and "intellectual", true or not. What I think is going on is that many of the forces in this world are best represented by America. We're the main part of a lot of things, and all roads are leading to us. So many things out there can be considered "American" and some people are bound to dislike them. If either you or they consider this "hating America" then I think that a re-evaluation of opinion is in order. However, if somebody says we caused the Indonesian Tsunami because Israel said to, maybe we could call that hate.
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    The inflated sense of self importance is one reason. The fact that this thread was even made reflects that, as does thinking that all of them "hate" us and thinking that they spend all of their time going off about us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    People should just ignore European Criticisms of America. They were criticizing us and hampering us even during the Korean War, when 90% of the troops, and nearly all of the funding was ours. They were doing it while we were dishing out billions of Dollars to rebuild Europe with the Marshal plan!

    Don't question our motives. You have no right to do that. Our actions have enabled your pathetic little countries to survive this long, and to prosper. Show some respect.
    Some of you Americans like to believe your still the 'underdog' against a europe that is united in flaming you (in political terms), but what you guys dont seem to realise, or appreciate, is that britain has stood by you without fail for the past 60 years since WW2, no matter how much the French, Germans or Italians or who ever blame you for all their problems, the United Kingdom has been your ally, so maybe please can YOU show a little Goddamn respect.
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    Don't question our motives. You have no right to do that. Our actions have enabled your pathetic little countries to survive this long, and to prosper. Show some respect.
    Well, our actions (wars, religious oppression etc.) have enabled your pathetic little country to exist in the first place. Show some respetc.

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