Socialist Canadian Healthcare Fails

[makkyo]

Here

"In a free and democratic society where you can spend money on gambling and alcohol and tobacco, the state has no business preventing you and me from spending our own money on health care."

Couldn't have said it better myself. Capitolism begins to win!

[Crazed Rabbit]

About time Canada allows people to pay for healthcare.

Crazed Rabbit

[Ice]

Accepting money from patients for operations they would otherwise receive free of charge in a public hospital is technically prohibited in this country, even in cases where patients would wait months or even years in discomfort before receiving treatment

Gee, I wonder why it's failing?

[lars573]

Gee, I wonder why it's failing?

Because it has a greater load than your does. AS every citizen and permanent resident can use it for free it gets used much more.

[Ice]

Because it has a greater load than your does. AS every citizen and permanent resident can use it for free it gets used much more.

Yes, that is the point.

[BigTex]

Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

Well slightly right and wrong there, if Puerto Rico ever actually has a vote on ratifying the consititution they'll be our 51st. If Canada will just finally get around to voting on the constitution you'd be our 52nd state. So come on Canada we want an "Up or Down vote" on that issue, we've been waiting a couple centuries over here. Even fought a couple war's with britian to spead up that pesky annexing process.

[Byzantine Prince]

It is really interesting how americans like to comment on us. You don't have to live here ok, stop bothering to say if we are doing good or bad. Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

[Ice]

It is really interesting how americans like to comment on us. You don't have to live here ok, stop bothering to say if we are doing good or bad. Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

Tell you what, when everyone stops criticizing the US, I won't criticize anyone else.

Oh and btw, if Quebec ever breaks apart from you guys, you will be our 51st state.

[Redleg]

It is really interesting how americans like to comment on us. You don't have to live here ok, stop bothering to say if we are doing good or bad. Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

So are you going to stop commenting on the United States?

If not then whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Beirut]

Who said our healthcare has failed?

Goodness knows we have to protect ourselves from corporate interests though. There's always going to be some deviant dirtbag who wants to make a profit off of people who are sick and dying, but who says we have to do what they want?

We don't want Wal-Mart hospitals. We want to use a medicare card - not a credit card (as Jack Layton would say). We would rather have the flaws in our system (as there are in all systems) than to replace it with one that is inherently flawed because it is biased towards those with money. It's better if the fault is in the system than in those who use the system. It's better that the hospital says we don't have the space because we're full than to have them say you can't have the space because you're poor.

Absolutely we need to fix our system, it is desperately in need of repair. But we sure as shoot don't want one that, even when it works, leaves 20% of our poorest children and over 30% of some minority groups without any health coverage at all. Plainly said, for-profit healthcare run by large corporations is an anachronism in a progressive society. It's a throwback to the days of snake oil salesmen and debtor's prisons. It is a savage cruelty and an insulting indignancy upon the weakest members of a society who have a right to protection by the country they live in.

What's next, the police and firemen don't respond unless you give your Mastercard # to the 911 operator? And if you don't have the cash, do they send rookies with older equipment instead of the pros with the newest technology, just as poor people get poor people hospitals instead of rich people hospitals?

It's exactly the same thing.

[Xiahou]

Who said our healthcare has failed?

Goodness knows we have to protect ourselves from corporate interests though. There's always going to be some deviant dirtbag who wants to make a profit off of people who are sick and dying, but who says we have to do what they want?

How many medical breakthroughs are a result of someone being nice and doing charity work and how many make the inventor rich? Your system is dependant on 'for profit' medicine. What really irks me about it is that Americans are subsidizing Canadian healthcare by paying higher prices for medicine that allow Canadians to get government discounted rates. We have to fund the R&D out of our pockets.

What I'd like to see happen is widespread re-importation from Canada to the US of cheap medication(like our government constantly tries to stop). Once the drug companies profits started drying up, they'd renegotiate their Canadian contracts right quick and you guys would have to start paying your fair share(whether via the welfare state or personally), lowering our costs in the process.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

It is really interesting how americans like to comment on us. You don't have to live here ok, stop bothering to say if we are doing good or bad. Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

You *are* our 51st state.

[Csargo]

Do you think we are your 51st state or something?

Wait Canada isn't part of the U.S.
Guess you learn something new everyday.

[Beirut]

About time Canada allows people to pay for healthcare.

Crazed Rabbit

No Health Insurance Coverage - 2004 US Census Bureau
http://www.census.gov/prod/2005pubs/p60-229.pdf

16% of all Americans (45,000,000 - More than the entire population of Canada)
10% of all children
20% of children in poverty
20% Black Americans
29% Native American
32% Hispanic origin

We want your F-22s, your bourbon, and Jessica Alba, we do not want your health care system thank you very much. We'd prefer to fix the one we have.

Oh and btw, if Quebec ever breaks apart from you guys, you will be our 51st state.

I thought it would be better for all involved if you were our 11th province instead.

[Radier]

Words can't describe how unfair I think the canadian healthcare are.

Shame on Canada.