Did hitler do anything "positive" or "good" for us humans?
Did hitler do anything "positive" or "good" for us humans?
He popularized that funny moustache.![]()
He shot himself. Although too late.
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He ruined fascism by attaching it permenantly to racist ideologies. Ejit. He did give the generations of the time interesting lives, I suppose.. not good.. but hardly mundane.
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Eejit? I never known the English to use that word. Quite a Scots/Ulster Scots word...Originally Posted by Justiciar
Anyhoo...
He reduced unemployment in Germany.
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he made some pretty good reasearch including the V I/II panther king tiger and possible a flying saucer
Originally Posted by ShadesPanther
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And how did that benefit humanity? I mean that is what you asked.Originally Posted by Abokasee
Besides the autobahns I can't find anything that we could argue was good for 'us humans'.
Besides a lot of hte research wasn't his work, but rather things that were already in the work (although of limited progress at the time).
The jet engine, others were working on it as well. Rocketry would soon reach the V2 level anyway.
There is also some less undevided good things, such as the bunch of very good research into the human body and how to benefit it, but it was reached by vile means (some argue we wouldn't have gotten a lot of that for a very long time without those kinds of disgusting experiments). So I guess it is a strange borderline 'good'. It did us good, but at the same time it most certainly didn't do other humans good at all.
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WWII ended the great depression in Europe by giving all the men jobs, if dangerous ones.
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Casting my mind back to my school A-level economics (which is more than 20 years ago, so not at the cutting edge of current research!) I remember my teacher saying that a case was being made that economically things had actually started to pick up before re-armament programs started. The economic cycle had reached its natural turning point where the vicious cycle of falling demand had gone as far as it could, and expenditure on basic essentials caused growth. He was probably referring to the UK economy rather than the whole of Europe, and of course the arms programme would certainly have had some effect on the speed of recovery.Originally Posted by Tiberius
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I can't think of anything he did good off the top of my head, but I'd say he really ruined the perception of Germans. Where I live and german is a Nazi, including Rammstein![]()
Whatever good he did was a poor return for all the bad that he inflicted.
That maybe because Hitler didn't achieve what he did alone... many other nations have had the allure and of facism and turned it down. Sure he may have been the temptor... but the tempted are still responsible for their actions... and the consequences of those... Nuremburg trials did establish that following orders is no excuse for poor judgement.but I'd say he really ruined the perception of Germans.
I know you meant it in jest but Hitler did not "invent" themOriginally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
as is so often thought. From wikipedia:
Autobahns were first conceived, planned, and built on a limited scale in Germany during the Weimar Republic era in the 1920s, but apart from the AVUS in Berlin, construction was slow, and most projected sections did not progress much beyond the planning stage due to economic problems and a lack of political support. One project was the private initiative HaFraBa which planned a "car only road" (the name autobahn was created in 1929) crossing Germany from Hamburg in the North via central Frankfurt am Main to Basel in Switzerland.
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oh no, what about Volkswagens?Originally Posted by R'as al Ghul
He influenced it but the design is older.Originally Posted by Taffy_is_a_Taff
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Well you can't blame the guy, he did try to come to power earlier. It isn't his fault he wasn't important enough early enough to invent those things.![]()
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Okay, I've actually got one. After the atrocity inflicted towards the jews, the UN gave jews all around the world a home country of Isreal.
no he didnt you silly goose. Not to mention Isreal is debatable...really debatable....like Backroom debateableOriginally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
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The idea of Israel predates the rise of the Nazis. So it cannot be contributed to them as a silver lining to a very grey cloud.
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in 1917, by the British..."His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
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He showed the world where do the extreme right-wing parties lead to. Same thing the Stalin did to communism.
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Nazi Germany did discover the link between smoking and cancer.
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The only good thing Hittler did was attacking the Soviet Union and making Stalin be the good guy. This man unwillingly saved communism. The war he unleashed was also good for Russia because it geve the russians some much needed distractions from ethnic and ideological clensings. Hittler saved indirectly 8 million Russians from gulags.
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Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
I hope you're joking. Hitler's attack on USSR caused death of about 10 million people and unthinkable economic damage. Communism wouldn't fail either way (with or without the attack), Stalin is still not considered a good guy, and the 8 million figure is not only smaller than 10 mil. killed, but also highly speculative.
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I believe that the largest (credible) estimate of Soviet casualties is around 21 million, of wich 14 million were unarmed civilians.
WWII brought us many atrocities that caused a huge "never again!" sentiment and has forcefully reminded of us of the importance of human rights and moral and political values...so indirectly and very much against his own will, Hitler did some good.
Originally Posted by Kralizec
Yes, I was talking about civilians. With army included, it's such a high toll that I have no words.
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