0.73 Beta Traits and Ancillaries Bugs, Issues, and Problems

**Malrubius** · 03-05-2006, 14:00

Post any bugs, issues, or problems you have with the EB Traits and Ancillaries system with the 0.73 patch (the first patch) here.

If possible, include a screenshot of the problem. This can convey a lot of information to me without words. Next best is a description of the problem, including the faction, the character's other traits, the year, and the season.

This first post will be used to compile the problems that have been posted, so please read before posting: your problem may have already been discovered or fixed.

If you don't post here or in the official bugs thread, it will probably be missed or forgotten.

Known Issues:
- The faction-specific "Drink" traits need some work to completely separate them from the plain versions (Problem acknowledged, not yet resolved).
- The Olympics aren't working at all (Problem acknowledged and resolved in this post)

**Malrubius** · 03-08-2006, 01:08

Here's one I thought I had fixed!

Makedonian generals get 2 versions of the Drink trait.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=62178

**Cheexsta** · 03-08-2006, 08:34

Another thing with Makedonian generals is that they seem to "renounce their drinking habits" very frequently, though this will probably be fixed if you remove one of the drinking traits...

Also, I've been getting lots of Olympics competitors recently. Which isn't bad, but when it happens practically every year? Is it supposed to just be the Olympics year or is it supposed to be like this? They also tend to not get any traits saying that they've won or lost.

I'll see if I can get a screenshot next time it happens...

**oudysseos** · 03-08-2006, 13:16

Been playing the KH (fav faction!) and i can confirm the Olympics problem. I get a lot of Agonistes/ Olympic Competitor hits, several times in non-olympic years, but have never had a result either loser or winner.

**Malrubius** · 03-10-2006, 01:22

~~I'm not sure what could be causing these Olympics problems. So it's happening with multiple factions?~~

[edit]
I found it. Stupid mistake, but easy to fix without messing up your saved game.

Do a search for this in your Data\export_descr_character_traits.txt file:

Code:

Trigger KoinonHellenon_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01

and add these two lines:

Code:

          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2

so it looks like this:

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger KoinonHellenon_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait KoinonHellenonOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait KoinonHellenonOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerKoinonHellenonOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerKoinonHellenonOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

More later...

Ok, it's later:
You should have a trigger for each faction that looks like this (search "could_not_Compete" and make sure they look like this):

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Baktrian_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait BaktriaOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait BaktriaOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerBaktriaOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerBaktriaOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Epeiros_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait EpeirosOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait EpeirosOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerEpeirosOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerEpeirosOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Makedonia_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait MakedoniaOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait MakedoniaOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerMakedoniaOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerMakedoniaOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Ptolemaioi_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait PtolemaioiOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait PtolemaioiOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerPtolemaioiOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerPtolemaioiOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

Code:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Seleukid_could_not_Compete_in_the_Olympics_01
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait SeleukidOlympicCompetitor = 1
          and Trait YearsPassed = 2
          and Trait Season = 2
          and Trait SeleukidOlympicVictor < 1
          and Trait FormerSeleukidOlympicCompetitor < 1
          and Trait CaughtCheating < 1

    Affects FormerSeleukidOlympicCompetitor  1  Chance  100

**PantsToucher** · 03-10-2006, 04:55

Just out of curiosity, what is the name of the file I would need to open to change this. Traits aren't something I've ever messed with at all, so I'm not sure what file I'm looking for.

**Trithemius** · 03-21-2006, 03:06

Blr! More Triumph problems for me!

A general has been trampling Makedonians, and just recieved the second trait and cognomen so I had him march out in search of a suitably large stack to thrash in order to be acclaimed by his troops. However, after attacking a Makedonian stack of about 700 men with his 550-or-so, winning an Heroic Victory and only allowing about 77 enemy soldiers to escape, the general still did not get a message saying he was named imperator by his men; I even waited until next turn to see if they were processed then.

Have other people experienced the same thing? Is it tied to the difficulty? Or is this some other problem at my end?

EDIT: I altered the unit size from normal to large in my preferences txt files - it did not change the current campaign but would this effect the trigger at all?

**Malrubius** · 03-22-2006, 12:04

Editing your preferences wouldn't have changed the unit size set in the traits by the script at the start of the campaign. I'm going to need more information about this guy; I got your screenshots of the prebattle scroll and the victory results, but I need to see a screenshot with all the guy's traits in it.

Here's the relevant portion of code in edct.txt:

Code:

Trigger Imperator_granted_PostBattle_Attacker_normal_UnitSize
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and WasAttacker
          and FactionType seleucid
          and Trait UnitSize = 2
          and NumEnemiesInBattle > 500
          and PercentageEnemyKilled > 30
          and Trait BattlePoints > 2
          and Trait Imperator < 1
          and not Trait Bug = 1

    Affects Imperator  1  Chance  100
    Affects Triumphator  1  Chance  100

Possibilities:
1. The UnitSize trait was not set correctly by the script at the start of the game. This can be checked by going into Data\export_descr_character_traits.txt and searching for "Trait UnitSize". Change " Hidden" to "; Hidden" to comment out the hidden attribute of the trait and make it visible. You'll have a new trait displayed, either Small, Normal, Large, or Huge. If this says Large or Huge, it would explain the problem. We'd then need to fix the script, because this affects lots of other things in the mod.

2. The UnitSize trait didn't get passed down the line somehow. Was this guy an adoptee, or did his father die before he came of age? It should still have passed down, but it's possible something isn't working right.

3. You must have fought the right number of enemies (250, 500, 1000, or 1500), depending on the unit size setting. If the UnitSize trait is screwed up for this guy somehow, the easiest fix for you to apply would be to change that "Trait UnitSize = 2" to just "; Trait UnitSize = 2" or delete the line entirely.

**Malrubius** · 03-22-2006, 20:00

Post any issues with the 0.74 version in this thread.

**Trithemius** · 03-23-2006, 16:25

Originally Posted by Malrubius

Editing your preferences wouldn't have changed the unit size set in the traits by the script at the start of the campaign. I'm going to need more information about this guy; I got your screenshots of the prebattle scroll and the victory results, but I need to see a screenshot with all the guy's traits in it.

Here's the relevant portion of code in edct.txt:

Code:

Trigger Imperator_granted_PostBattle_Attacker_normal_UnitSize
    WhenToTest PostBattle

    Condition IsGeneral
          and WonBattle
          and WasAttacker
          and FactionType seleucid
          and Trait UnitSize = 2
          and NumEnemiesInBattle > 500
          and PercentageEnemyKilled > 30
          and Trait BattlePoints > 2
          and Trait Imperator < 1
          and not Trait Bug = 1

    Affects Imperator  1  Chance  100
    Affects Triumphator  1  Chance  100

Possibilities:
1. The UnitSize trait was not set correctly by the script at the start of the game. This can be checked by going into Data\export_descr_character_traits.txt and searching for "Trait UnitSize". Change " Hidden" to "; Hidden" to comment out the hidden attribute of the trait and make it visible. You'll have a new trait displayed, either Small, Normal, Large, or Huge. If this says Large or Huge, it would explain the problem. We'd then need to fix the script, because this affects lots of other things in the mod.

2. The UnitSize trait didn't get passed down the line somehow. Was this guy an adoptee, or did his father die before he came of age? It should still have passed down, but it's possible something isn't working right.

3. You must have fought the right number of enemies (250, 500, 1000, or 1500), depending on the unit size setting. If the UnitSize trait is screwed up for this guy somehow, the easiest fix for you to apply would be to change that "Trait UnitSize = 2" to just "; Trait UnitSize = 2" or delete the line entirely.

I will reply to the 0.7.4 traits thread later in the morning, sorry I'm a bit bleary-eyed to do it right now - Oblivion came out here today...