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    RIP Tosa, my trolling end now Senior Member Devastatin Dave's Avatar
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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    Its still a man, a very disturbed and sick man that should be put somewhere so they have no influence on society. I believe California should have a wall put around it and the seaside mined and put all the perverted and their supporters there so they can live in Brokeback Utopia, fornicating each other, animals, dead bodies, whatever gives the "progressive" mindset its jollies these days. Let filth wallow with filth.
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    Eh, your body, your choice. What else can I say.
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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    last time i checked, gender was decided by either XY or YY chromosomes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    last time i checked, gender was decided by either XY or YY chromosomes.
    Corrected: XY or XX. YY chromosomal fetuses do happen, but they cannot come to term. The X chromosome contains a lot of info necessary for the human body that has nothing to do with gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Corrected: XY or XX. YY chromosomal fetuses do happen, but they cannot come to term. The X chromosome contains a lot of info necessary for the human body that has nothing to do with gender.
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    cut me some slack; i'm hung over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Corrected: XY or XX. YY chromosomal fetuses do happen, but they cannot come to term. The X chromosome contains a lot of info necessary for the human body that has nothing to do with gender.

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    Oh you could be hung over -- or maybe you're a disfigured male! I know I am. Not sure how, exactly, but I'm feeling very disfigured today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solypsist
    last time i checked, gender was decided by either XY or YY chromosomes.
    Sex is determined by chromosomes; gender is decided by society.


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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    gender is decided by society
    Care to explain? Sounds a bit odd to me.

    As for the poll: a mutilated male.

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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    Care to explain?
    Well, I imagine that it is the idea that gender is how member of the sexes act and operate in society, not just what is between their legs. Like different gender roles in different societies.


    On topic, I suppose it has to be a xase by case basis. If it's just genital mutilation/sex chage surgery no. Course, if it comes with hormonal treatements, then its closer to being a women. And if we want to go purely by actions deciding gender, then you don't even need the knife for that. And in the case that was on this board earlier, no way. I voted diconfigured male btw, although I suppose the pole is pretty bad.


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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    Who cares anyway? If they're not harming anybody, I couldn't care less. We don't make a special point of trying to classify boys born with very small penises or women born with both. Of course, we could just toss those terribly disfigured infants into California, or the nearest river if California is too far away.

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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    It is really entirely irrelevant what any of us thinks what sex such a person has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    Its still a man, a very disturbed and sick man that should be put somewhere so they have no influence on society. I believe California should have a wall put around it and the seaside mined and put all the perverted and their supporters there so they can live in Brokeback Utopia, fornicating each other, animals, dead bodies, whatever gives the "progressive" mindset its jollies these days. Let filth wallow with filth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    My man, you have some serious issues.
    Not nearly as many issues as someone that would cut his penis off and call himself a women. And not nearly as many issues as someone would support this silly idea and call it a cure or normal either.
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    I fail to perceive where it rubs your butt any, though. What people do with their bodies ought to be their business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    I fail to perceive where it rubs your butt any, though. What people do with their bodies ought to be their business.
    Because i don't want to explain to my child why some pervert did what it did until he's a bit older than grade school because some teacher looks like Mrs Doubtfire on roids. That's why. Is that so bad? I'm sure I'm just evil for calling a mentally ill freak a perv but that just what it is. Sorry I don't pass your judgements of progressive ideals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    Because i don't want to explain to my child why some pervert did what it did until he's a bit older than grade school because some teacher looks like Mrs Doubtfire on roids. That's why. Is that so bad? I'm sure I'm just evil for calling a mentally ill freak a perv but that just what it is. Sorry I don't pass your judgements of progressive ideals.
    What is evil is the fact that you refer to a human being as "it."

    No matter what they have done to themselves surgically, how they choose to dress, what beliefs they hold, humans are always humans.

    Your attempt to dehumanize a person because he tried to surgically change himself in order to be happy is disgusting.

    Having said that, I sympathize with your concern about having to explain about others' lifestyle choices to your child.

    I have no idea how I'll explain to my son why people would hate a person just because that person wanted to be a girl instead of a boy. I guess I'll just tell him that some people are small-minded idiots who hate anybody who is different from their own very narrow views of how people should be, and that he should probably just ignore them and let them wallow in their own filthy ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    I have no idea how I'll explain to my son why people would hate a person just because that person wanted to be a girl instead of a boy. I guess I'll just tell him that some people are small-minded idiots who hate anybody who is different from their own very narrow views of how people should be, and that he should probably just ignore them and let them wallow in their own filthy ignorance.
    Good for you. Being called an idiot by someone with your idea of normal assures me that I'm right. Maybe you should show your son some gay porn so he'll be ahead of the curve before some transgendered pervert shows him what tolerance is really about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    What is evil is the fact that you refer to a human being as "it."
    Are humans animals? yes.

    If you neuter an animal you refer to the animal as an it.

    The guy was definitly neutered therefore he is now an it. An it attempting to camoflage itself as a female.
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    Default Re: Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

    Out of curiosity why'd you keep pushing for this topic? If the idea of it disgusts you why are you so curious what others think? Are you or someone you know considering this type of surgury?

    Frankly I don't like it. Had my hair cut by what I thought was a hot filipina only to have a friend of her/him tell me it was/is a guy once.

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