Walking on eggshells: Gender reassignment surgery

**Ice** · 03-06-2006, 21:01

No, he's still still Male, and will be always be a male.

**Lemur** · 03-06-2006, 21:11

Just to expand on the theme -- if I were playing a lot of online RPGs, and I decided that I was really an elf in a man's body, would the membership of the Org send me donations so that I could get elf surgery?

Once I have been altered to resemble an elf, two more questions: Am I really an elf, or just a freaky person? Should I be allowed to teach children in my new elf persona?

Me after my elfectomy:

**Slyspy** · 03-06-2006, 21:49

Sure, they'd love it. More clothes may be necessary though. Is your elf persona also gender confused? It certainly looks ambiguous enough to confuse all the other elves.

**ajaxfetish** · 03-06-2006, 22:07

As first brought up by Vladimir, if he had his Y chromosome surgically removed I might grant womanhood. Till then it's just wishful thinking.

Ajax

**Big_John** · 03-06-2006, 22:15

Originally Posted by Slyspy

Sure, they'd love it. More clothes may be necessary though. Is your elf persona also gender confused? It certainly looks ambiguous enough to confuse all the other elves.

hey man, there's nothing ambiguous about that elf-rack! hey-oh!

**Lemur** · 03-06-2006, 23:23

I would like everyone, including Big John, to be respectful of my needs, and not use derogatory terms such as "elf rack." There are proper elvish words for such things. I also expect the Org patrons to refrain from phrases such as "Legolas ta-tas," "mithril chest thumpers," "elf knockers," "keebler muffins" or "elvish bikini stuffing." All of these terms are offensive. Especially for a person who's planning on an elfectomy.

I appreciate your tolerance and understanding. You don't have to appreciate my desire to become an elf, but I ask that you treat it with an open mind.

**Xiahou** · 03-06-2006, 23:48

Originally Posted by Lemur

I would like everyone, including Big John, to be respectful of my needs, and not use derogatory terms such as "elf rack." There are proper elvish words for such things. I also expect the Org patrons to refrain from phrases such as "Legolas ta-tas," "mithril chest thumpers," "elf knockers," "keebler muffins" or "elvish bikini stuffing." All of these terms are offensive. Especially for a person who's planning on an elfectomy.

I appreciate your tolerance and understanding. You don't have to appreciate my desire to become an elf, but I ask that you treat it with an open mind.

"keebler muffins".....

**Papewaio** · 03-07-2006, 01:13

No Gah! option therefore not a legit pole er poll.

As far as gender reassignment is concerned can the person now play sports for a female team?

**Reenk Roink** · 03-07-2006, 01:16

Originally Posted by Lemur

I would like everyone, including Big John, to be respectful of my needs, and not use derogatory terms such as "elf rack." There are proper elvish words for such things. I also expect the Org patrons to refrain from phrases such as "Legolas ta-tas," "mithril chest thumpers," "elf knockers," "keebler muffins" or "elvish bikini stuffing." All of these terms are offensive. Especially for a person who's planning on an elfectomy.

I appreciate your tolerance and understanding. You don't have to appreciate my desire to become an elf, but I ask that you treat it with an open mind.

I liked you better as a Lemur...

**Devastatin Dave** · 03-07-2006, 02:45

Originally Posted by Lemur

I would like everyone, including Big John, to be respectful of my needs, and not use derogatory terms such as "elf rack." There are proper elvish words for such things. I also expect the Org patrons to refrain from phrases such as "Legolas ta-tas," "mithril chest thumpers," "elf knockers," "keebler muffins" or "elvish bikini stuffing." All of these terms are offensive. Especially for a person who's planning on an elfectomy.

I appreciate your tolerance and understanding. You don't have to appreciate my desire to become an elf, but I ask that you treat it with an open mind.

Are elf boobies more pointed, you know, like how their ears are?

**Divinus Arma** · 03-07-2006, 16:45

Well, a couple of points here: I purposely left out a Gah option. Why? It is too tempting on a topic like this. Posters may feel one way or the other, but lean more towards Gah. Thus my intent was for Orgahs to either take a stand on the issue or protest their lack of interest by simply avoiding the poll altogether. Further, I also left the poll anonymous so that I could gauge opinions of those here who do have an opinion on the matter. Some may be tempted to vote for option b or gah simply out of spite.

I understand how the poll could be viewed as "reinforcing" to ones own conclusion, especially if one were proudly socially progressive. The wording to a socially liberal Orgah would absolutley appear to be negatively inclined against men who replace their genitals with an artificial vagina. The wording used in this poll was factually based. Removing one's genitals is exactly that. Artifical construction of a vagina is exactly that. I don't see how else it could be factually explained, what "art"?

Unfortunately, there are limits to the text that can be included within a poll answer. If the opening post had been read, my intent is clear. It states, replacement with an artifical vagina. I would hope that posters would assume that this almost meant the artificially injected hormone regiment that male would have to undertaken for the remainder of his life in order to facilitate breast development and development of other female attributes. If this was not clear then, well than that is my fault and I hope this post clarifies the question.

So, the poll question was asked given the factual reference point of a male having his genitals surgucally cut off and replaced by an artifically constructed vagina. As for the point of "mutilation", I know not how else to put it. I also consider tatoos and body jewelery to be mutilation. This does not mean I find it morally wrong, it is just a descriptive word.

Now, regarding the discussion, I think the individual is still a male. The comments regarding chromosomes pretty much sum it up. Big John suggests that technology in realtion to time is a factor for discussion. I would say that certainly- technology currently enables us to choose sex in "test tube" conception. But this is an analysis and selection of chromosomes, not a surgically alteration coupled with life-long hormone therapy. I think that is an important distinction.

Would anyone here find a reassigned male as sexually appealing as a natural female?