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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Genes.

    What you are proposing is a form of eugenics in which you reward rapists with their genes being pased on to the next generation. If any component of rape is gene based then you will have a nice compounding spiral.

    Why reward the criminal of one of the most horrendous crimes with a child.

    And why punish the victim of the crime to carry the child of the person who commited the crime?

    So you advocate punishing victims and rewarding criminals.
    Ive gotta say, that's a really twisted view. You're saying we should kill people based on their genetics?

    Edit: To be clear, this is mostly an academic debate. I'm in favor of any serious restrictions on abortion. An exception for rape is much better than abortion at will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    Ive gotta say, that's a really twisted view. You're saying we should kill people based on their genetics?

    Edit: To be clear, this is mostly an academic debate. I'm in favor of any serious restrictions on abortion. An exception for rape is much better than abortion at will.
    Actually either avenue will end up with a form of eugenics.

    One that excludes rapists.

    The other that rewards them.

    So pick your flavour. Either way by having a social policy that influences who gets born in the next generation we create a eugenics program. This may be done without us even realising it.

    But at the end of the day if we are choosing one gene set over another by government intervention then it is eugenics.
    Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
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    Default Re: South Dakota outlaws abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Actually either avenue will end up with a form of eugenics.

    One that excludes rapists.

    The other that rewards them.

    So pick your flavour. Either way by having a social policy that influences who gets born in the next generation we create a eugenics program. This may be done without us even realising it.

    But at the end of the day if we are choosing one gene set over another by government intervention then it is eugenics.
    No, by definition, eugenics would only apply when you kill a baby because of its 'impure' genes. Allowing nature to run it's course could not be considered eugenics. You must be one of those people that calls a tax cut a subsidy.

    Besides, what label you use is irrelevant- you're arguing for the killing of humans based on their parentage. That's ridiculous.
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