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    Default Re: Magyar/khazar unit

    Basicly -sorry to say - none of these units are to my liking. there should be no swordsman, and no spearman that last model is fair for a varangian, but again the skin is... Khm. Should I have enough time I'd make some skins for you myself. Unfortunately EB sucks most of my time.
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    This is the german knight.

    I put red and white stripes on shield, read somewhere was arpad color around 9th century and so maybe can use.



    He has both spear-shield and sword-shield (sword secondary weapon)

    Of course must be mounted.

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    Well, forgus, all that unit intended to be mounted on horse.
    I can mount and show, but is a lose of time, imho.
    Must think they stay on horse, that all.
    The colors are vivid, i agree, but that are colors on the pictures posted around, drawing, and figurine.
    And vivid colors imho are way funnier to see in game than all brown dark (that is my personal opinion)

    Next will come leather covered archer, i guess.

    No need to make a skin, just make a handmade draw and post here, so i can copy it :)

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    Here 3 version of an horse archer, with leather mail.

    I tried to make a reflex bow, check if is correct, else tell me where change it.



    Critics are always welcome, but must be costructive critics, telling where must do modifications, and how.

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    I like the bows. Especially the gold guy.

    They look ok, but make them a bit more european. They are too nomadic and mongol, especially their face.
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    Ah yes, i used steppe faces or those.
    I will try to round eyes and change mustaches. :)
    What about general, lesser general, and so on? tell me how want them

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    This is a general, or cant work?



    Can use as some officer, or such. tell me what needed change.

    I am lost again :)

    I dont know how many more archer i msut do, and how dressed.

    Choose some of those leather and tell me what colors like and i manage to edit them.

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    Default Re: Magyar/khazar unit

    Quote Originally Posted by palissa
    Ah yes, i used steppe faces or those.
    I will try to round eyes and change mustaches. :)
    What about general, lesser general, and so on? tell me how want them
    Yeah. supposed to be caucasians

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    I can do them caucasian, no problem, but all the pics you posted, showing all the face with mongolians trait, that because i did so :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by palissa
    I can do them caucasian, no problem, but all the pics you posted, showing all the face with mongolians trait, that because i did so :)
    Yeah. For centuries it was assumed. But genetics did not justify it, nor have some sources. While Magyars mixed with turkish groups quite often, the original stock was much lighter in colour and had more ligtly pigmentated facial hear like today's Finns. So a mix would be nice, some skins lighter, some darker :-)

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    Magyar bodyguard.

    Leather armor, chainmail under it, red tunic, sword + bow.


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    Quite good. It fits the pagan part of the Magyars....
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    Quote Originally Posted by palissa
    Magyar bodyguard.

    Leather armor, chainmail under it, red tunic, sword + bow.

    Sorry no good. Hungarian princes had eastern vikings as bodyguards. I think I wrote a lot amout it. First vikings, then Varangians. It is quite frustrating that these units are made on a this may be good for something basis, instead of research, more frustrating so since on the other thread there are a lot of pictures and explanations...

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    Ah okay Forgus :)

    Well, if remember, I asked you to give me a desc of units :)
    I didnt knew bodyguard need to be Viking looking, that isn't a problem.
    Please look at the unit preview in new topic i did, so can critic them and tell me what wrong and what right.

    I will redo the bodyguard so looks like a viking now.

    Here the viking i stole from aovaf resources



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    Default Re: Magyar/khazar unit

    This one's much better imho.

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    Nice guy.
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    Default Re: Magyar/khazar unit

    The general has to be Magyar looking. I think the bow isnt important it can be also decoration.

    Palissa, for the general model please use patterned tunic, they are cooler. Red or not isnt very important. Scale mail is also good but the helmet never was scaled in the history.

    Forgus, are you sure about the viking bodyguards also in the 9th century?

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    Default Re: Magyar/khazar unit

    Only from the beginning of the 9th. True. should be 900-1000 kölpények, 1000- varjágok/svábok.

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