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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainDustin
    If a human had enough faith in God, and God wanted him to, he could walk on the water. Paul walked on the water, towards Jesus.
    I'm trying ever so hard not to get involved in this debate, but the pedant in me can't overlook this one.

    It wasn't Paul who allegedly walked on water and sank because of a lack of faith, it was Peter. Paul never met Jesus (not while alive, anyway).

    It is exactly small typos/scribing errors like this that have been incorporated for millenia into the Bible, and add them to the translation errors and you have a very shaky basis for claiming the Bible as the actual word of God. Unless you can read Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic (with a smattering of Coptic and hieroglyphs) and have access to the original books/scrolls, any claim of the unreconstructed Word of God is flawed.

    Just something to think about.
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    I'm trying ever so hard not to get involved in this debate, but the pedant in me can't overlook this one.
    Don't ya just love Zealots that don't know scripture

    the definition of Christian is one who believes Everything in the bible.
    So Zain , you believe in giant aliens who come to earth because they liked the food and the sex .
    Slavery is the natural role for certain people because their forefather saw his dad when the old fella was drunk and naked . And oysters are bad , very bad . Rape is good , as long as you don't sell the woman afterwards . If you lose a bet then it is OK to go killing and robbing to repay that debt . Oh and genocide and ethnic cleansing are Gods will .
    Do you follow the correct proceedures if you discover mildew in your house ?
    So do you beleive in and follow Everything in the bible ? Or are you not really a Christian by your own definition ?
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    Default Re: The creation of the Universe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman
    I'm trying ever so hard not to get involved in this debate, but the pedant in me can't overlook this one.
    Don't ya just love Zealots that don't know scripture

    the definition of Christian is one who believes Everything in the bible.
    So Zain , you believe in giant aliens who come to earth because they liked the food and the sex .
    Slavery is the natural role for certain people because their forefather saw his dad when the old fella was drunk and naked . And oysters are bad , very bad . Rape is good , as long as you don't sell the woman afterwards . If you lose a bet then it is OK to go killing and robbing to repay that debt . Oh and genocide and ethnic cleansing are Gods will .
    Do you follow the correct proceedures if you discover mildew in your house ?
    So do you beleive in and follow Everything in the bible ? Or are you not really a Christian by your own definition ?
    It was just a typo, I knew the man that walked on water had a "P". No big deal, I guess it would be though if it was in the bible.

    No, I don't do all those things because the laws and procedures changed when Jesus died on the cross. He died on the cross my everyone's sins so those things don't have to happen. The laws changed after the crusifixion, that's why the temple's cloth tore from the top to the bottom.

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    Or maybe this?

    One of the most controversial, and some would say, scurrilous films
    of the last year has been the box-office blockbuster, The General
    Synod's _Life of Christ_. Sarah Gould talked to Lawrence Vironconium
    - Bishop of Wroxeter, the director of the film, and Alexander Walker,
    one of its stoutest critics.


    The film deals with the story of the rise of a humble carpenter's
    son, one Jesus Christ, to fame and greatness, but many people have
    seen in the film a thinly disguised and blasphemous attack on the
    life of Monty Python. Python worshippers say that it sets out to
    ridicule by parody the actual members of Monty Python who even today,
    of course, are worshipped throughout the Western World.


    NOT!: Alexander Walker, can I ask you first, what did you think of
    the film?


    WALKER: It apalled me. I find it deeply offensive that, in what is

    still, after all, basically a Python-worshipping country, fourteen-
    year-old children can get to see this film. They get little enough
    proper Python these days, without having this distorted garbage paraded
    about.


    NOT!: Bishop, you directed the film. Did you expect this kind of
    reaction?


    BISHOP: Well, I certainly didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Yes.
    Yes, I did direct the film. And what I feel I _must_ emphasise at
    once, is that it is not an attack on Python. I'm not a Pythonist
    myself, but obviously I have enormous respect for people, like
    Alexander, who are.


    WALKER: Oh, come now bishop. The central figure in the film...
    this... er...


    BISHOP: Jesus Christ.


    WALKER: ... thank you, this "Jesus Christ" is quite clearly a
    lampoon of the comic messiah himself, Our Lord John Cleese. I mean,
    look, even the initials are the same!


    BISHOP: No. No, absolutely not. If I may try and explain. The Christ
    figure is not meant to _be_ Cleese, he's just an ordinary person who
    happens to have been born in Weston-super-Mare at the same _time_
    as Mr Cleese.


    WALKER: No. No, really, Lawrence, that's too...


    BISHOP: And ... and, if I may finish... he is _mistaken_ for the
    comic messiah by credulous people of the sort that can see something

    "completely different" in anything, and who then follow him around
    in vast crowds... ah... doing silly walks, and chanting No, No, Not
    The Comfy Chair, and other slogans from the Good Bok itself.


    NOT!: Alexander Walker - your comments on that?


    WALKER: No, I'm sorry, whatever the Bishop may say, this is a highly
    distasteful film. Have people forgotten how Monty Python suffered
    for us? How often the sketches failed? I mean these men died for us.
    Frequently.


    NOT!: Bishop, turning back to you, do you not agree that the film
    may affect the position of Monty Python in our spiritual life?


    BISHOP: No, I hardly think so. If Python _is_ immortal (as
    Pythonists believe), I'm sure a mere film...


    WALKER: A tenth rate film.


    BISHOP: ...I'm sure a mere film is not going to stop believers.
    Remember the words of John cleese: "When two or three people are
    gathered together in my name, they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."


    NOT!: Indeed. "It is an Ex-Parrot..."


    ALL: "...it has Ceased To Be"


    NOT!: Well, the final scene in the film has perhaps attracted the
    most attention of all. Alexander Walker, a last word from you.


    WALKER: Yes, well, the final scene is... is the ultimate blasphemy.
    It... it is set in a hotel, in Torquay, where literally hundreds of
    Spanish waiters are being clipped about the ear by this "Jesus
    Christ" bloke in a ghastly cartoon of the Comic Messiah's
    Greatest Half-Hour.


    NOT!: Alexander Walker, thank you.


    WALKER: Thank you.


    NOT!: Bishop, thank you.


    BISHOP: Thank you. Actually, it's not Torquay, it's Torbay.


    WALKER: Oh, Torquay, Torbay, whatever. I really don't see...


    NOT!: Alexander Walker, Bishop, thank you.


    BOTH: Thank you.


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    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    What I don't understand about Genesis is that God lies and the Serpent tells the truth. (not defined as 'Satan' then - Satan being a Zoroastran word)

    God says 'don't eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge or you will die'. The Serpent says 'This isn't true, you can eat it and you won't die'.

    Which is the truth and which is a lie?
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