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    I have found a British survey that checks your political leaning. If anybody is interested please have a go.

    http://politicalsurvey2005.com/
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    My findings were as follows



    Crime and punishment, internationalism
    Your position on this axis is 4.4
    You are likely to be fairly punitive and isolationist.

    Economics, etc
    Your position on this axis is 3.0
    You are likely to be very free-market and pro-war.
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    Very interesting,and more relevant than the American poll.

    I filled in 'the Guardian' and liberal-democrat. According to the test, the lib-dem was spot-on, but readers of the Times have views most like mine.

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    Hmm. Bang on the centre on hanging and flogging and Europe, and to the right of 98.1% of the population on economics (Not sure why being pro free market is lumped with being pro war but there we go. Probably just as well for me it was or I would have broken toe 100% barrier)

    I don't think I'm THAT economically right wing, but put it down to the questions being slightly simplistic. For instance I do think we should allow foreign nurses to work here, but not if it means denuding other countries of healthcare.
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    Very strange test.

    I scored:

    "Crime and punishment, internationalism
    Your position on this axis is -3.9
    You are likely to be fairly internationalist and rehabilitationist.

    Economics, etc
    Your position on this axis is 3.7
    You are likely to be very free-market and pro-war."


    On the first scale (crime/social?), I seem to be aligned with Polly Toynbee (87% of UK people are more right wing than me).

    On the second (economic/war) I am with Margaret Thatcher (96% are more left wing than me).

    I wonder whether the two axes came from? I suspect they are just measuring correlations within responses (e.g. using factor analysis). They don't seem to correspond that well to meaningful ideological divisions (I'm not pro-war or particularly free market).

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    This test is inpossible to answer to a foreigner.Too many specific questions about Britain.
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    Default Re: Political view - A British angle on the question

    Quote Originally Posted by Mine
    Crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is -0.5
    You are likely to be centrist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is 5.8
    You are likely to be very free-market and pro-war.


    Even though I said I disagree with the war in its question?

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    Crime and punishment, internationalism
    Your position on this axis is -0.6
    You are likely to be centrist.

    Economics, etc
    Your position on this axis is 0.2
    You are likely to be centrist.

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    i'm extremely left wing and extremely right wing.

    -5.2 & +1.8

    Yay me.

    But i'm just forced to condlude that it isn't the test that is flawed, but the entire political system! Why hang-em-flog-em-social-control-conservative right wingers have to vote for the same party as the 'there's no such thing as society'-libertarians makes no damn sense.

    Gah.

    i am more of a libertarian than anything else, i think. Unless i'm an anarchist

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    Im so to the right

    Of women...
    • 76.4% are significantly to your left
    • 20.6% have views about the same as yours
    • 3.0% are significantly to your right
    Of men...
    • 74.0% are significantly to your left
    • 21.9% have views about the same as yours
    • 4.1% are significantly to your right
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    hmm i never knew how centrist i was :D most possibly because i have no idea what all this political jargon means anyway...
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    Better test than most I have taken here and elsewhere, though just because I believe in free'er markets between countries and anti protectionist policies generally, it seems on the economy I am far closer to the centre than I would normally be labelled. It is interesting. It does seem too, that I am the furthest person to the left on internationalism and rehabilitation they have had take the test.

    http://politicalsurvey2005.com/surve...EADAAEAEAEBAEA



    Crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is -8.2
    You are likely to be very internationalist and rehabilitationist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is -0.8
    You are likely to be slightly socialist and anti-war.

    Compared to the whole population...(the first axis)

    * 0.0% are significantly to your left
    * 0.1% have views about the same as yours
    * 99.9% are significantly to your right

    Compared to the whole population...(second axis)

    * 11.1% are significantly to your left
    * 47.6% have views about the same as yours
    * 41.3% are significantly to your right
    See, I am not really left wing on the economy, I am where the majority of people are and should be!
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    I was a half-inch due right of the origin. Centrist.
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    It does seem too, that I am the furthest person to the left on internationalism and rehabilitation they have had take the test.
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    On crime and punishment i'm a .8
    On economics i'm a 2.7 Pro war and free market, who woulda thunk it.

    Your prisons are too soft, you need a couple good old boys packing fudge. Uk should withdraw from the EU. Immigrants are bad for UK. Many severe crimes deserve the death penalty. More important to punish the criminals, again I marvel at that concept.



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    crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is -0.2
    You are likely to be centrist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is 2.1
    You are likely to be fairly free-market and pro-war.
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    Crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is -2.4
    You are likely to be slightly internationalist and rehabilitationist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is 1.3
    You are likely to be slightly free-market and pro-war.


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    Seems like a pretty decent test, although I would had though I would had been a bit more to the left...

    Crime and punishment, internationalism
    Your position on this axis is -4.6
    You are likely to be fairly internationalist and rehabilitationist.

    Economics, etc
    Your position on this axis is 0.2
    You are likely to be centrist.
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    The x-axis result seems accurate, but I have to disagree with the grouping of 'free market' and 'pro-war' together on the y-axis - it makes the y-axis result fairly innaccurate for me (being generally anti-war).
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    I'm not Enlgish but:
    Crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is -2.9
    You are likely to be slightly internationalist and rehabilitationist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is -0.3
    You are likely to be centrist.


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    Crime and punishment, internationalism

    Your position on this axis is 3.0
    You are likely to be slightly punitive and isolationist.
    Economics, etc

    Your position on this axis is 2.3
    You are likely to be fairly free-market and pro-war.

    Apparently I'm only 'slightly right of center' on economics and fairly rightwing in social issues. ho-hum.

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    Where would you place Charles Kennedy, the leader of the Liberal Democrats?
    Little behind the times, isn't it?
    "Look I’ve got my old pledge card a bit battered and crumpled we said we’d provide more turches churches teachers and we have I can remember when people used to say the Japanese are better than us the Germans are better than us the French are better than us well it’s great to be able to say we’re better than them I think Mr Kennedy well we all congratulate on his baby and the Tories are you remembering what I’m remembering boom and bust negative equity remember Mr Howard I mean are you thinking what I’m thinking I’m remembering it’s all a bit wonky isn’t it?"

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    If I were British, then what party would I like?



    According to the American Political Spectrum, I was a moderate libertarian conservative, not a full-fledged right wing hack. I was just a touch out of the maistream to the right.


    Positions on this axis describe your views on crime and punishment, Europe, and other transnational issues including immigration and international law.

    1.7. "Slightly right of center."

    Compared to the whole population...

    56.9% are significantly to your left
    31.3% have views about the same as yours
    11.8% are significantly to your right


    Positions on this axis describe your views on public and private involvement in the economy, international trade, redistributive taxation... and Iraq.

    5.3 "Very Right Wing".

    Compared to the whole population...

    99.3% are significantly to your left
    0.7% have views about the same as yours
    0.0% are significantly to your right



    Compared to voters for the major political parties
    Here we compare your answers to those given by people intending to vote for several well-known political parties.


    I guess that means the UK is far far more socialist than the U.S., Eh?

    Goodness. Even more than 98% of UK conservatives are to my left? Darn Americans and our free market system...

    I think this poll is biased.
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    Divinus Arma - The poll is not bias, I don't really understand what it could be bias against. Unfortunately as you have pointed out, the US is a far more right wing country than the UK. Over here we still have - although weakened - a sense of social democracy and not simply free market mayhem, for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Divinus Arma - The poll is not bias, I don't really understand what it could be bias against. Unfortunately as you have pointed out, the US is a far more right wing country than the UK. Over here we still have - although weakened - a sense of social democracy and not simply free market mayhem, for instance.
    I was kidding.


    As for the free market "mayhem", you are absolutely right. And it is why the UK is the world's economic leader, more powerful than any other country in the history of the world. Oh wait. Nevermind. That would be us. heh heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    I was kidding.


    As for the free market "mayhem", you are absolutely right. And it is why the UK is the world's economic leader, more powerful than any other country in the history of the world. Oh wait. Nevermind. That would be us. heh heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    As for the free market "mayhem", you are absolutely right. And it is why the UK is the world's economic leader, more powerful than any other country in the history of the world. Oh wait. Nevermind. That would be us. heh heh.
    I would certainly say that at it's height The british empire was more powerful relatively than the US today. 1/4 of the worlds population... but its what ifs, so i'll concede that the US is massively powerful.

    But as a country, the UK economy punches well above it's weight. we are one of the G8, when, as a country with 65 million, we have a tiny population, and yet our social care to the poor is better than the states...

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    Heh. Center-leaning Centrist. How about that?

    I lied & said I was a Londoner, a Guardian reader, a 2001 Labour voter, an '05 Respect voter. I chose some pretty extreme views on the 'values' bit of the poll, and yet came out middle-of-the-road. Looking at the comparison analysis, it looks like the UK is divvied up into thirds: one-third rightists, one-third leftists, one-third centrists, roughly speaking.
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    but what i also find interesting is that the 'tail' of the left wing is a lot longer than the right wing one... the right seems very short indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinus Arma
    If I were British, then what party would I like?
    From what I have gleaned from your posts, DA, I think you would despair of most of the parties in the UK. Nonetheless, I believe you would find some like-minded individuals in the Conservative Party (such as the Reform Group) whilst growling about the direction that David Cameron (the new leader) is taking the party.

    But yes, the UK is considerably less right-wing on economic matters than the US. This suits the British character quite well (paternalism rather than socialism, market forces but with heavy regulation, and so forth) whilst allowing for some important differences from the Continentals.

    The Brits aren't doing too badly with their slightly right-centrist tendency - given the size of the country and its population, fourth (or newly fifth, I think now that China is coming up on the rails) largest economy isn't at all bad.

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