Another strike towards sanity

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Pedophilia is not a crime. Child molesting is a crime. People don't molest children because they are pedophiles, they do it because they are pedophiles and evil. It's like the difference between a heterosexual and a rapist.

Child molesters should be treated same as rapists. I don't think rehabilition works though I could be wrong. Long prison sentances sound right.

And of course looking at child porn is wrong too. The sentance would obviously be less severe.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Pedophilia is not a crime. Child molesting is a crime. People don't molest children because they are pedophiles, they do it because they are pedophiles and evil. It's like the difference between a heterosexual and a rapist.

I'm not at all sure what you are trying to say, but you're wrong. Paedophiles are sexually interested in children, and in most of Europe (and I am pretty sure in the USA too) acting on that interest in any way will attract a serious criminal sentence. People who are paedophiles almost always act on their impulses.

If you are trying to say that the mere thought of sexual attraction to children but without any action upon that thought is not criminal, then theoretically you're correct, but it's rather splitting hairs - and to defend what point?

It is certainly not equivalent to comparing heterosexuality (which is legal in both thought and practice) and rape (which is fundamentally a crime of control and violence, much less sexual gratification).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

People who are paedophiles almost always act on their impulses.

Is this true?

If you are trying to say that the mere thought of sexual attraction to children but without any action upon that thought is not criminal, then theoretically you're correct, but it's rather splitting hairs - and to defend what point?

Saying someone is a criminal when they're not is wrong. Like me saying someone is a rapist because they are heterosexual.

[master of the puppets]

the worst cases cannot be rehibilitated, and they cannot be reinjected into society. we need a nice small island in the middle of the pacific where we can just drop all the scum off.

[A.Saturnus]

I'm not at all sure what you are trying to say, but you're wrong. Paedophiles are sexually interested in children, and in most of Europe (and I am pretty sure in the USA too) acting on that interest in any way will attract a serious criminal sentence. People who are paedophiles almost always act on their impulses.

As far as I know, there are pedophiles who do not act on these impulses and by consequence, they are not criminals. But also by consequence, it shows a flaw in LEN's reasoning. It cannot be ethically questionable to be a pedophile, just as it cannot be ethically questionable to be homosexual. But pederasts act on their impulses, knowing that doing so is wrong. No one has it under his control to be a pedophile but pederasts have it under control. Therefore being a pedophile is no more an excuse for pederasty than sexual needs are for rape. Thus, pederasts are criminals, not merely victims of a sickness.

[LeftEyeNine]

As far as I know, there are pedophiles who do not act on these impulses and by consequence, they are not criminals. But also by consequence, it shows a flaw in LEN's reasoning.

Of course if there are pedophiles that can stand what runs through their minds, then they can't be counted sick and that makes a flaw in my way of reasoning. It is why homosexuals can not be counted "sick" -I never did.