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    Bopa Member Incongruous's Avatar
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    Oh for gods sake why?
    why would they do that?
    Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
    Oh for gods sake why?
    why would they do that?
    Oh well...
    I feared someone would have that reaction. I don't know if you live in the UK, but I want to do an impersonation of the UK TV ad where Michael Winner (pompous director of 3rd rate movies) says "Calm down dear, it's just a commercial".

    I was just speculating - generally, CA like lots and lots of units, so I am probably wrong.

    In a way the transitional phase between full mail and full plate would be reasonably well modelled by armour "upgrades" (otherwise, it's not really clear what the upgrades represent). In fact, it would be a rather a neat system if you just had generic units like "knights" and could "dress" them in different kinds of armour (& weapons), RPG style, depending on your technology, buildings and bank balance. But that's for another engine, if anything[1].

    [1]Edit: But then again, I did read something about M2TW saying that armour upgrades would be visible on the unit...
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    What a pretty horsey!! Who could ever kill a horse like that?
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    I hope that you are right SA... That this is just a late Feudal Knight (Chivalric in MTW), but two things speaks against it from my POW.

    Firstly, we have seen this guy and the plated knight, but not the Norman Knight yet. This guy has been fighting with or against similar infantry or more primitive infantry, indicating that he comes fairly early.
    Secondly, with the new 'Speedo' progress of tech I doubt they would stuff in three types of knights in one line. Quite simply they would get outdated a little too fast, unless we get access to knights VERY early, something like 10 turns into the game (or even from the get-go with castles).

    He does look good though. I just prefer the Norman styled knight a whole lot more.
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    Erasing the past...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla
    And to any Scotsmen out there, was St Andrew's cross always a diaganol cross (historically) or was it primarily the colors that made it?
    Good question. I am no Scot but I was led to believe it represented the way in which he was crucified. I could be wrong, it was many, many years ago

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    It is nice XII century equipment, full plate one (from screenshots) look like XV century one. There is still place for something in the middle So old chivalric knights are still possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orda Khan
    Good question. I am no Scot but I was led to believe it represented the way in which he was crucified. I could be wrong, it was many, many years ago

    .......Orda
    Yea, apparently it was the way they crucified him

    St. Andrew was put to death by the Romans in Patras, Southern Greece by being pinned to a cross (crucified). The diagonal shape of this cross is said to be the basis for the Cross of St. Andrew which appears on the Scottish Flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla
    I like the unit for the most part. The only thing it seems to be missing (I'm not trying to nitpick either) is his sword. Once that lance broke or was lost the combat got real close no knight would go stabbing at enemies with an unwieldy lance (check the thread in monastery).
    Well, we couldn't see the swords and similar secondary weapons in RTW either. And it would be kind of counterproductive to see him wearing a sword then see him wield a sword a few seconds later, but still have his sword sheathed.... Two swords?
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    I don't know much about Scottish knights in particular, but I think maces were more common as secundary weapon than swords.

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    Erasing the past...
    Last edited by spmetla; 04-26-2008 at 04:05.

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