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    This description for Celtic ports seems to imply that navies were not an important part of ancient warfare. It was my understanding that naval battles were very important in some Greek and Roman wars. Should I change it to say that sea battles weren't so important in Celtic warfare?

    Ancient warfare did not relied on decisive sea battles in the same way later periods would come to. However, the ability to build some light transports to launch invasions was clear, especially in the north of Gaul, and in Britain and Ireland. Further, small hide covered boats could be used to attack larger ships by rafting up to their sides, and climbing up the sides to engage the crew. This port would allow the most simple of ships, which, while not anything extravagant, are all necessary for transporting an army a short distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    This description for Celtic ports seems to imply that navies were not an important part of ancient warfare. It was my understanding that naval battles were very important in some Greek and Roman wars. Should I change it to say that sea battles weren't so important in Celtic warfare?

    Ancient warfare did not relied on decisive sea battles in the same way later periods would come to. However, the ability to build some light transports to launch invasions was clear, especially in the north of Gaul, and in Britain and Ireland. Further, small hide covered boats could be used to attack larger ships by rafting up to their sides, and climbing up the sides to engage the crew. This port would allow the most simple of ships, which, while not anything extravagant, are all necessary for transporting an army a short distance.
    Good point. Try this:

    Ancient naval warfare in Northern Europe did not rely......
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    I'm currently working on the Hellenic naval port description. It is written in a different, almost corny style. Should I clean it up a bit but try to maintain its style or should I completely rewrite it so that it better matches the others?

    {naval_bay_carthage} Kolpos Stolou
    {naval_bay_carthage_desc}
    Hellenic Naval Bay\n\nThe sea: an endless frontier. A place of mystery and myth. A source of life and joy to the people living on its shores but, occasionally, also a cause of death and grief. But the sea is more than that. It is a means of communication and cultural exchange. A fast ship can take men to far away places much more quickly than land travel. For the more practically-minded individuals it is also a great source of profit. Trading ships can carry tons of merchandise to distant ports and significantly boost the economy of a city. Yet beware! Robbers of the sea, pirates, harsh men who will not hesitate to attack merchant-ships and loot them or raid coastal defenseless cities, are on the loose. Even small towns need a few ships of their own to help repel raids or to act as speedy messengers of a distress call to a friendly settlement. Our people are well-known for their skill in building relatively small but fast and agile ships, capable of withstanding battle with heavier opponents, a field where the hellenic colonists living in our lands contibuted a lot. A site with, at least, the elementary installations for military ship-building will be essential.
    {naval_bay_carthage_desc_short}
    A small shipyard for constructing only basic military vessels.

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    Default Re: e_b.txt edits - naval ports

    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    I'm currently working on the Hellenic naval port description. It is written in a different, almost corny style. Should I clean it up a bit but try to maintain its style or should I completely rewrite it so that it better matches the others?
    I think I like the corny style there. It's refreshingly different! So yes, try to improve the grammar and still keep that "Hellenic Voice"!

    (Although if the OTHER Hellenic descriptions are "normal", it'll sound odd by comparison. Still, lets keep it)
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    1. Have I edited this a little too much? I tried for that same style but I don't think I quite got it.

    {naval_bay_carthage} Kolpos Stolou
    {naval_bay_carthage_desc}
    Hellenic Naval Bay\n\nTo the Hellenes the sea was an endless frontier. It was place of mystery and myth. It was a source of life and joy to the people living on its shores. The sea also served as a means of communication, travel, and cultural exchange. A fast ship could take men and ideas to far away places much more quickly than travel by land. For the more practically-minded individuals the seas were a great source of profit. Merchant ships gave a significant to their home city’s economy by carrying loads of merchandise to and from distant ports. Despite all that could be accomplished by sea travel, the Hellenes had reason to be wary. Pirates roamed the sea and did not hesitate to attack and loot merchant ships or raid defenseless coastal cities. Hellenes defended their coasts with relatively small yet fast and agile ships. These ships were perfect as speedy messengers to allied cities and were capable of standing up to heavier ships in combat. Facilities capable of constructing these ships were essential for any Hellenic city.
    {naval_bay_carthage_desc_short}
    This small shipyard is capable of constructing basic military vessels.


    2. Should "Cilicia" in the Ptolemaic description be changed to the more Greek- sounding "Kilikia"? I think that is how it's spelled on the map but I can't find the old map preview or launch a campaign to find out for sure.
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    Default Re: e_b.txt edits - naval ports

    Quote Originally Posted by tk-421
    1. Have I edited this a little too much? I tried for that same style but I don't think I quite got it.
    It is little dry. Try using first person?

    2. Should "Cilicia" in the Ptolemaic description be changed to the more Greek- sounding "Kilikia"? I think thats how its spelled on the map but I can't find the old map preview or launch a campaign to find out for sure.
    Good memory - that's exactly how it's spelled in the game. So yes, please use that spelling.
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    Default Re: e_b.txt edits - naval ports

    It has too many 'its' in the first number of sentenc, which makes the rest sound bad. Just reconstruct the beginning and it will sound fine, I think.

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