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    In the description for the Casse faction you can read:
    They came to these islands and crushed, displaced, or flatly annihilated the old people; broke them utterly.
    I was wondering who these ‘old people’ were.
    Other Celtic tribes or Indo-European people?
    I always thought the replacement of the latter was more a process of acculturation. Could someone clarify, please?

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    Remember that the first part of a faction description is written from the faction's point of view, and my fudge facts a little by recording myths rather than history. Ran can tell you the particulars on this on though.
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    So it’s only because "they flatly annihilated the old people" sounds better than "they completely assimilated with the old people"? Surely EB – known for its historical accuracy – must have a better reason.

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    Default Re: Casse (British Celts)

    Quote Originally Posted by R4P
    So it’s only because "they flatly annihilated the old people" sounds better than "they completely assimilated with the old people"? Surely EB – known for its historical accuracy – must have a better reason.
    The point is that the first long description is not meant to be in anyway truly historical. It represents a present tense description written from the point of view of someone describing the faction at that time. Therefore what you read is a story using emotive language where necessary and is meant as an introduction to the faction before you start playing it. If you look at the actual history then you will find a rather well written history of the Casse Tribe. That is the historical accuracy that EB is famed for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R4P
    So it’s only because "they flatly annihilated the old people" sounds better than "they completely assimilated with the old people"? Surely EB – known for its historical accuracy – must have a better reason.
    This is similar to the Irish myths about having wiped out and marginalized the Cruithne. The Celts didn't always control the islands; they came from central Europe, afterall. The 'old people' would be earlier Celtic migrations, as well as pre-Celtic natives that had been run off or assimilated. In the Irish stories, this often is depicted as the annihilation of the former people. You have to also understand, 'annihilation' in the Celtic sense means the loss of one's history, and thus identity of a people (since enemy priests and other educated members of society tended to be the first to be executed ritually, those keeping histories are killed; the culture is effectively wiped out and submerged in the Celtic invaders, who displace them; from the Celtic perspective, with their bloodlines and history rendered moot, the people are effectively destroyed, and are forced to become Celts as well).
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    It's one half theatre and one half history lesson. It's so obvious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranika
    You have to also understand, 'annihilation' in the Celtic sense means the loss of one's history, and thus identity of a people (since enemy priests and other educated members of society tended to be the first to be executed ritually, those keeping histories are killed; the culture is effectively wiped out and submerged in the Celtic invaders, who displace them; from the Celtic perspective, with their bloodlines and history rendered moot, the people are effectively destroyed, and are forced to become Celts as well).
    I see, thank you for answering.

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