Legionary animations

**Kull** · 03-19-2006, 17:21

Originally Posted by aevionknight

And here it is! It's a little hard to tell, but he pushes the blade in (it takes some work), twists in, and then extracts it. Messy!

Hehehe. It's a good thing our mothers aren't reading this!

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 03-19-2006, 18:42

He shouldn't raise his shield like that. There is sculptural as well as practical (re-enactment) evidence that the Scutum was held low to protect the legs, since the shoulders were already double armoured. In point of fact he should move his shield as little as possible.

**Baldwin of Jerusalem** · 03-19-2006, 19:06

His trailing leg looks a little elongated to me.

**GMT** · 03-19-2006, 21:11

Originally Posted by Wigferth Ironwall

He shouldn't raise his shield like that. There is sculptural as well as practical (re-enactment) evidence that the Scutum was held low to protect the legs, since the shoulders were already double armoured. In point of fact he should move his shield as little as possible.

It's kinda hard not to move his shield when he steps forward to stab, I think it looks great.

And he's not raising his shield by the way, he lowers his body because he spreads his legs when he steps forward to stab.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 03-19-2006, 21:17

I can't help but look at that vanilla animation and imagine the guy yelling each time, as he's making the stab, "Face stab!!" "Oh yeah! Face stab!!"

**Dooz** · 03-19-2006, 22:40

Ouch! Nice! Disembowling fun for the whole family.

**We all need someone** · 03-20-2006, 01:35

Not supposed to move his shield?? Then what the hell is the boss for?

I think that claim is a little ridiculous. There are historical accounts of legionaries, when disarmed and losing their gladius, taking down like ten people by bashing them with that big ol' scutum and the heavy boss.

And slick animation. Especially the disembowel twist- yikes.

**aevionknight** · 03-20-2006, 01:43

EDIT: Oops

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 03-21-2006, 23:55

Originally Posted by We all need someone

Not supposed to move his shield?? Then what the hell is the boss for?

I think that claim is a little ridiculous. There are historical accounts of legionaries, when disarmed and losing their gladius, taking down like ten people by bashing them with that big ol' scutum and the heavy boss.

And slick animation. Especially the disembowel twist- yikes.

Yeah? Who would this be, if its Livy or Tacitus you can ignore it. Point me to the source, in the mean time, let me extrapolate.

The Scutum is quite heavy, and also very awkward, lifting it with that horizontal grip isn't easy. Thats not to say it was totally immobile but bashing people in the face itsn't that practical.

Aditionally the current stab aevionknight is using is actually a fencing lunge, you can get up a lot of power by moving the right leg infront of the left, that way only your arm is exposed, your shield remains covering your body and you use a minimum of energy.

Lunging repeatedly would very quickly tire you out, not to mention it leaves you quite exposed, possibly off balance, as you'd quite easily lose your footing in the mud, and means you break formation.

Roman legionaries had to stand shoulder to shoulder, moving that much would put you at risk.