Battle Speeches in BI?

[Dallan Invictus]

Hello, all. I'm hoping you can help me be a bit less confused. :) This is the first time I've posted here, though I've been reading the forums for a while and always found them a big help.

I've been writing a history paper on Byzantium for university, and that got me in the mood to dust off my copy of RTW and go pick up BI. Now, one of the things I loved _most_ about RTW was the speeches the Roman generals would give before battle, and how they varied in length and related to the circumstances and to the general themselves.

So I go install BI, patch it to 1.6 and add player1's bug-fixer files before starting my first game (as the ERE, of course!), and find that the generals now seem to just toss off two comparatively generic lines in every speech. Nothing about their Vices/Virtues, nothing about the combat situation, nothing about any approaching enemies or allies or.....gah! Is this a bug or something, or did BI really remove that feature?

I'm having trouble finding any previous posts about it (my searches mostly turn up people cheering the variety of them), so I decided to register and make my own.

Thanks for your help!

-D.

[Antagonist]

AFAIK, BI removed this feature. Some of the lines would need to be removed (all the factions are different for example) but I was disappointed that everything except for the one-liners went. Ideally of course it would have been great if there were new lines (referencing stuff like the new factions, political situation, Christianity etc.) but sadly there were not.

I haven't looked at the files in detail, but it might be possible to put them back in, though it would be a bit of work.

Antagonist

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Welcome to the forums Dallan Invictus!

I also loved those speeches. I could just sit for a while and listen, because they were so cool. I'm surprised though that I did not even think about them being missing in BI. I don't have any modding experience, so I can't be of much help, but I do vaguely recall seeing some mods for this thing.

Good luck!

[Dallan Invictus]

I stuck my nose into the files myself to compare them, and figured I'd try adding in the missing sections (the ones dealing with strategic situation and traits and such) from the vanilla file into the BI file, but that didn't seem to work. I'm fairly sure I'm missing something, so I guess I'll nose about to see about Alexander's vaguely recalled mods.

Thanks for your help, both of you.

-D.