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    Default gaining command stars

    I got 0 command general which still have 0 command after 12 battles, several of them are heroic victory.

    How can I gain command stars from battles..?

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    For the most part, you don't. My greatest general, conqueror of Italy, crusher of the Rome, subduer of Epeiros etc. etc. (he has at least four heroic victory markers in Italy, maybe five), has only 3 command stars (4 on the attack, he got a Mercenary Captain).

    After that many battles, you are likely to have pretty impressive morale boosts for the army, but command stars are very difficult to come by in EB.

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    Perhaps a bit... too hard to come by? Maybe some further tweaking is in order for the future. It's understandable to try and keep command stars in check so every general isn't a 10 star wonder, but when your stuck with a less than 4-5 star guy after a lifetime's worth of fighting, that just doesn't seem right either.

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    Gaining command stars is also a function of the difficulty of the battle, win or lose.
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    Think of it this way: if a general's ICE (Intelligence Charisma Energy) rating is low, it is assumed that his advisors are essentially fighting the battle in his stead, and so he doesn't progress much further than his natural abilities allow him, even if he wins heroic victories continously (in which case he has particularly brilliant advisors!). Only a very small % of your generals (the Hannibals and Alexanders of this world), randomly selected, are capable of reaching 10 stars, and when you get one you'll know about it; once blooded, they'll gain stars very quickly indeed. Which is fair enough, I think. Alexander was a "10-star general" in his 20s...
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    Ok so your general doesnt gain 10 stars easy. But he doesnt gain 1 star easy either, I have not had a general gain more than two stars during any campaign. Even when he won 100 battles half of wich were heroic. and no they werent stupid and lazy. But I dont care about that, what I care about is that the A.I. is able to have every general with 5 stars or more and all they do is sit in a city the hole time. And no they dont fight any battles because I have a spy watch them the hole time. How is this possible? Does the A.I. have special traits or is it something I am doing?

    Oh and they get those traits whether there is any building in the city or not. So how is this so?

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    AI gets stars easily to compensate for its extreme stupidity and bad use of troops on the battlefield, methinks.
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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    You should probably look at the Traits FAQ. Scroll down a few paragraphs to the section titled "Command Stars, Combat, and Morale".

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    i know you guys need to give the AI some help

    it's just extremely disheartening seeing my (in my mind) beastly macedonian king Antigonos with 4 command stars, all hard earned battles, stalemates in Epirus, he's been to hell and back. then I scroll across the map and see the AI with every generals 7 stars +.

    really makes me sad

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    It may be even sadder when EB is ported to 1.5, as that may reduce the tendency of the AI to let captains command large armies. I've noticed enemy armies tend to melt away if led by a captain, but put up very fierce resistance when led by one of the 7 star generals.

    I like EB's handling of command stars, but I've only played Romans so I may be having it a little easy. Weaker factions may struggle.

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    My current Romani faction leader has been in the field since he was 16.He is the Vanquisher of Carthage,the Vanquisher of the Galli and he has just achieved his some sort of accolade regarding the Macedonians.He is lauded as a Destroyer, a great tactician and numerous other titles yet he has only 4 command stars.However, the morale of his troops is sky high and this is easily as important.I would not change the way EB has set up the command star structure between the human and AI player as there is just no comparison and the AI needs all the help it can get on the battle-field.
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    Yep. My current 41 year old Getic faction leader, who also happens to be the Pavel-Ter, has been fighting and winning since he was a wee lad. 2 command stars. I mean, I understand trying to balance out player and AI and all that, but it just doesn't seem right. Sometimes it's just nice to have an awesome general with a lot of command stars, just for the sake of having him and seeing him, especially if he really, really deserves it. And this guy does. Does having some extra command stars really give that much of an advantage to the human? What exactly do they do?


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    Oh and of course, he has perfect traits and all for leveling up according to the guidelines. It just doesn't seem like there's anywhere left to go. There's only +1 coming from GoodTactician and +1 from GoodLeader I think. Those traits don't improve. Is this by any chance whatsoever a mistake? Or that's just the way the cookie crumbles?
    Last edited by Dooz; 03-22-2006 at 22:02.

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    Command stars give a bonus to attack, defense, and morale, if I recall correctly. Very, very powerful.
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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    I don't think they give a bonus to defense, just attack for all units, and morale for all units within the command radius. The Morale bonus from "Confident Troops" and other traits like it affects all the troops on the battlefield.

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    You guys have to stop thinking in RTW terms.
    4 star Generals are really really good. Its not vanilla in with anything below 7 was lame.
    Its not fair to give guy 10 stars just because You are commanding battles for him. If we do that every general will be 10 star just because You play battles for him.
    If he is not cut out to be a good general he should not become one.

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    Default Re: gaining command stars

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDBulA
    You guys have to stop thinking in RTW terms.
    4 star Generals are really really good. Its not vanilla in with anything below 7 was lame.
    Its not fair to give guy 10 stars just because You are commanding battles for him. If we do that every general will be 10 star just because You play battles for him.
    If he is not cut out to be a good general he should not become one.
    Sure, I agree. But the problem is, I don't have a single general over 2 stars. Hell, I'd be extatic if I had a 6 or 7 star general at some point. And these men are most definately cut out to be generals. Their traits are perfect, ready to become greats. They are applied, yet... fail to measure up.

    Once again, I ask if there is possibly a problem with GoodLeader and GoodTactician not being leveled up properly. There didn't seem to be this problem with 0.72 as I had a few great generals over the course of almost 2 centuries that would have Great this and that. Anything?

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