Carthage overpowered?

[hsimoorb]

I have to say, going up against a strong carthage is generaly pleasing. But I think they're Elite African troops are overpowered. They'd be fine by themselves, but the AI spams them into armies of nothing but uber legionary infantry. They should cost alot more if they're going to be as powerful as they are.

But of coarse, not too weak that carthage folds like it always does in other mods.

[QwertyMIDX]

They already cost over 2200 for a unit of 80...

[hsimoorb]

That didn't stop carthage raising 3 full stacks of them in my campaign.

[Keba]

Try playing against Rome ... I had to fight my way through five or so stacks of Early Triarii ... an absolute nightmare.

It is a shame there is no way to encourage the AI to field proper armies, not the RTS style all elite.

[Chuffy]

Carthage are definately powerful in EB, I think it mainly stems from the Numidians not being in. In RTR I found playing as Carthage extremely challenging and hard, mainly because Rome was overpowered and Iberia controlled lots of cities but also because there was the unpredictable Numidian element. In EB, Iberia does not control that many cities and the Carthies don't have to worry about being backstabbed by the Numidians while fighting the Romans.

Plus they have overpowered generals cavalry.

[Slider6977]

General's bodyguards overpowered?(yeah probably ) But first, I just think that reflects how vastly superior Carthaginian cavalry is compared to Roman cavalry. In fact, I feel Iberian heavy cavalry are a little underpowered considering their historical toughness. The problem is not the units though, it is, as has been stated already, the AI. They will spam certain units, which is virtually the same for every faction. If you attack a powerful faction, expect to come up against full stacks of very good troops. Of course, you would like to see variety, but that is the limit of this game.

Personally I love playing Carthage. Powerful units, but expensive. You must spend wisely, but once the money starts flowing, it gets a little easier. Which is the same as Rome for the most part. Expect a fight, no matter which faction you chose. Cause you must remember that these two nations were the most powerful at the time this game is set. With the successor states fighting each other, and northern tribes historically not expanding, the mediterranean belonged to Rome and Carthage. And they fought for many years. So from a historical standpoint (and this is supposed to be a historical/realistic game), and a game standpoint, neither one of these factions should be pushovers. Not overpowered, but a challenge, just like most of the factions.

On a side note, a quick questions: anyone playing as carthage every have Rome attack Corsica and Sardinia. It seems in my games that their fleet is broken, and virtually never attack my islands in the north, only (occasionally) in Sicily.

[abou]

I have found that Carthage does little to develop her navy, but the military yards at Qart-hadast are well developed - so there is your chance. After quickly taking it and defending it with a solid garrison, start building ships and blockade their ports, every other one, all the way to Iberia. Make sure you follow those trade routes on the map to get the right ones to maximize the efficiency rather than hitting every port - this also means you have adequate ships for defense in case any enemy fleet is around that you missed.

Due to unit upkeep costs such as elephants, Elite African Infantry, etc. after a few years of blockade, Carthage's finances are in the negative and their possession of the Sahara only hurts them, which means no retraining of beat-up units. With time and troop cycling you can beat them down or better yet, grab Ippone and start training elephants to smash them.