The Infamous Cav Spam"

Monarch, stop putting him off with good arguments :P

I understand Rome is around 2000 years ago.. That's right I think. Because it is in the era when pagenisim was spread, and Jesus' birth was 2000 years ago..

It's right that Cavary WAS stronger than infantry at that era. So I think they aren't over-powered in the game.

For the Romans though, wasn't their infantry the strong part of their army in the earlier period covered by RTW?

I don't though think cav spamming is that infamous in game anymore though, as spears are now vaguely effective against cavalry, unlike in 1.2. I mainly play BI these days though, so I've limited exposure of post 1.2 RTW. I do know that the old fashioned melee cav spam doesn't really work in BI. Ironic for a period historically dominated by cavalry though.

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

It's right that Cavary WAS stronger than infantry at that era. So I think they aren't over-powered in the game.

Extacly Monarch

so I hate when people Whine "oh, Cav is overpowerd,we must use 6 cav max and if not,we might lose to a all cavarly"

Cav Was overpowerd in real life, and if it wasn't, Prove it,Monarch..



Aslo, I had 800 Spears today, and I got kill by a Full army of Cav, and he only flank me with 1 unit..

Originally Posted by BHCWarman88

Extacly Monarch

so I hate when people Whine "oh, Cav is overpowerd,we must use 6 cav max and if not,we might lose to a all cavarly"

Cav Was overpowerd in real life, and if it wasn't, Prove it,Monarch..



Aslo, I had 800 Spears today, and I got kill by a Full army of Cav, and he only flank me with 1 unit..

"Praetorian Cavalry"=Fake they were Batavii EXPENSIVE as hell MERCENARY Cavalry.
"Legionary Cavalry"=Fake
"Roman Cavalry"= Fake they has ONLY Equites
So if you live in the Holywood merryland and smoke some pretty weird stuff youll believe that 2000 armoured Roman horsemen stuck in a space of 4x4 meters were the uber killaz of antiquity...
Without:
SADDLES
STIRRUPS
COUCHED LANCE
Cavalry has NO chance against even merely trained infantry...

Hellenes

Lol, indeed Hellenes. A "classic" legion during Augustus' time would field only about 100-200 horsemen, versus about 5000 infantrymen.

The fact that cavalry is both overpowered and to cheap in the game when compared to what we know of history is only touching the tip of the iceberg. It's just a game, so I'll leave it at that, but arguing that stacks with 50% or more cavalry are historicly accurate is just sad

Cavarly was Over Powerd 2000 Years Ago

Cavalry WAS strong 2k years ago, but yes their weren't armies of it. A single horse would go over 10 men in a single lance charge.

Originally Posted by x-dANGEr

Cavalry WAS strong 2k years ago, but yes their weren't armies of it. A single horse would go over 10 men in a single lance charge.

Without:
Stirrups?
Saddle?
And its 2274 years ago, no huge Medieval horses that would bite your arm off, NO COUCHED LANCE technique, NO CAVALRY STACKING (this is practically impossible)...
The game has the uber cavalry for ONE SINGLE reason:
DUMBING DOWN for the ignorant masses, to excite and entertain them, the jumping horse animation (that defeats 7 meter long pikes HEAD ON), the HUGE amount of FANTASY Roman cavalry and the total absence of balance prove that.

Hellenes

I do believe that someone riding a horse would have adventage on someone not. Surely, they wouldn't beat spearmen, but also sure enough they would beat Swordsmen. Their is no cav unit that can beat a phalanx head on in game, I don't know where you see that (It's fixed anyway).

Originally Posted by BHCWarman88

Extacly Monarch

so I hate when people Whine "oh, Cav is overpowerd,we must use 6 cav max and if not,we might lose to a all cavarly"

Cav Was overpowerd in real life, and if it wasn't, Prove it,Monarch..



Aslo, I had 800 Spears today, and I got kill by a Full army of Cav, and he only flank me with 1 unit..

Hello,

Not one for ancient history, but I feel Hellenes has pretty much proven cav wern't really used for more than screening and guarding flanks until Medieval era.

But that wasn't my point. Please try to read my posts a little better. My point was you said cavalry was overpowered in real life. To which I responded very basically, nothing can be overpowered in real life. Why? Because it was my understanding that by the word overpowered one would be refering to overpowering a unit, in the game, so it was more powerful than it was in history.

So my point wasn't that cavalry wasn't strong in real life (though as Hellenes has pointed out, cavalry wasn't really very strong until Medieval times) but that something in history cannot be overpowered, it can on only be overpowered in a game.