Silly Anti-Drug movement

[Strike For The South]

I was watching the telly and saw a commerical that went along these lines.

She got high

She got AIDS

How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS

[Byzantine Prince]

You can get AIDS by masturbating without a condom and we all know that getting high makes you hungry which in turn makes you very horny.

[Spetulhu]

How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS

Being high, no. Losing your self-control as a result of that high, yes.

Not that scare tactics work anyway. People know they're not going to catch anything, it only happens to others.

[Lemur]

Maybe if they'd been a little more specific, you know, something about needle-sharing and rough buggery. Something a little more convincing. I'm not sure anyone is stupid enough to think that toking up will give you AIDS.

Unless it does ... [scary music]

[Ice]

You have to be pretty stupid to believe that.

[Csargo]

I was watching the telly and saw a commerical that went along these lines.

She got high

She got AIDS

How stupid can you be? Like being high somehow exponetially increases your chances to get AIDS

Come on strike did you really have to use the word telly I mean come on this is America.

[Samurai Waki]

Theres a meth anti-drug movement too, if you've ever seen those commercials... some guy pulling out all of his eyebrows with a tweezer. You'd have to be almost mentally retarded to try something like meth anyways.

[GoreBag]

Theres a meth anti-drug movement too, if you've ever seen those commercials... some guy pulling out all of his eyebrows with a tweezer.

I might do that on a dare for twenty bucks. The real side effects of meth are far more bizarre and disgusting.

[GoreBag]

Yeah. Just take a look at a meth-head, and you'll never do the drug:

Try getting some Google images on 'meth mites' or 'crank scabs'. Reading an article on them will only make things worse.

[doc_bean]

You'd have to be almost mentally retarded to try something like meth anyways.

I know a few people who did and ended up fine...

Moderation people, it's all in the dosage...

[Samurai Waki]

moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.

Plus the girl in that picture above is actually not a worse case scenario on the physical adversities that meth can cause, thats mild at best. When I went to highschool there was a girl that took meth, she was quite pretty then... I saw her about a year after I graduated, she lost all her hair, all her teeth, her nose, was blind in one eye... and was almost completely brain dead. She couldn't speak, and she didn't have a clue about what was going on around her.

[Major Robert Dump]

I personally love the nationalistic commercials that link marijuana use to supporting terrorism, I don't see them as frequently but they are still around. An insult to the publics intelligence and it undermines the war on terror. the DEA and washington is full of s*** for not distinguishing between narcotics and things like pot and hash, and it only reinforces my opinion that the baby boomers of america are some of the biggest f***** sell outs in history, and it proves that old, out of touch men still run this country and that the prison system is, in fact, a political tool.

In Oklahoma having as little as a dime bag and "paraphenillia" is grounds to have 7 different charges brought against you, including charges that mean you lose your home and everything in it if you are convicted. The war on drugs is a business, and seizures of assets can make up to 20% of a sheriff departments operating budget. Cops, washington, and every privatized corrections company can lick my butthole

[Idaho]

The outlandish messages given by governments are totally counterproductive.

They take all drugs in any circumstances and say "these are bad and will do terrible things". The problem is that young people try a drug and whoa - it's not bad.. it actually feels good! Obviously the government are totally wrong about drugs and I will ignore any advice. Or they do a little study at school and find out the history and use of cocaine and opium and how they revolutionised much of medicine.

Honesty is what's needed. Yes drug A makes you feel weird, drug B makes you feel confident, drug C blots out all your problems, drug D is quite mild but can have strong effects. The side effects of A and B are this, the good points are this, the safer doses are this, overdose looks like this and don't mix A and D etc.

[Papewaio]

I have the same problem with Greenpeace... they have an agenda and will warp the facts to suit them... or make them up...

Hyperbole and emotions, do not an effective arguement, make.

[rory_20_uk]

Balanced messages, such as legalising the softer drugs and coming down hard on the worse ones with evidence not "facts" that are porous after 10 seconds of thought might work.

"Gee, that gal did pull all her own teeth out! Huh, let's go smoke a joint..."

Most things are OK with moderation (after all, one can OD on water). Some substances it is almost impossible to take in moderation though, and in those cases they should be illegal. Providing ready access to substances to help addiction would be useful, such as competetive antagosnists of opioids so that even taking the stuff doesn't cause a high.

[Idaho]

Herion addiction in this country has a raft of associated problems almost entirely caused by illegality.

• Theft for drugs caused by high prices from illegality
• Infections from poor hygeine, dirty equipment
• overdoses from mixed strength street drugs
• Hep and AIDS epidemics caused by ignorance and lack of clean equipment.

Herion itself, whilst very addictive, is not generally that harmful. You could inject yourself twice a day with a reasonable dose using sterile equipment and pharm grade stuff and probably not suffer any herion related diseases or complications for 20 years.

[rory_20_uk]

And in hospitals we do, often more than twice a day.

[doc_bean]

moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.

He just quit, he had never been a heavy user. He got out of the scene and didn't feel the need to use anymore....

[Idaho]

And in hospitals we do, often more than twice a day.

Although doctors addicted to opiates is not as common as doctors addicted to strange barbs or tranqs.

I used to work in the General Medical Council in the section that dealt with all the addict doctors. They always seem to go for relatively obscure pills too.

[_Martyr_]

Yeah, I heard that Psychiatrists have the highest rate of adiction in any profession. Not surprising really.

[Kanamori]

You could inject yourself twice a day with a reasonable dose using sterile equipment and pharm grade stuff and probably not suffer any herion related diseases or complications for 20 years.

The problem with continuous usage of Heroin is two-fold in my mind. One: injecting often can lead collapsed veins and all sorts of other nastiness, not to mention unsightly pin-prick marks around the veins that cause irritation. And two: using often builds resistence to the drug, requiring more and more to get the same 'rush'.

moderation? I don't believe theres a such thing when it comes to narcotics, they might have taken so much that they were completely burnt out and went to a de-tox clinic, or had some powerful force in their life that made them quit...but a drug like meth, you can't just be moderate in its use like alcohol.

This is quite wrong, although I cannot comment on meth. With any drug, there are different effects with different dosages. The problem is that finding the outter edge effects of more dangerous drugs leads to death more easily than with alcohol. Still, alcohol is much worse than many of the drugs which are regulated/banned. When you smoke yourself silly, you don't wake up the next morning with your body half dead from poison. Not to mention that many, many other drugs don't harm the body nearly as much as alcohol.

Being high, no. Losing your self-control as a result of that high, yes.

Not that scare tactics work anyway. People know they're not going to catch anything, it only happens to others.

...The only time pot will make you lose self-control is when you fall asleep from too much.

Although doctors addicted to opiates is not as common as doctors addicted to strange barbs or tranqs.

Which is especially odd to me given that they ought to know how much more dangerous barbituate addiction can be than opiod addiction. The physical withdraw symptoms are quite painful, by all accounts, and with worse addiction, quitting cold-turkey can kill you.

[master of the puppets]

i know a guy who is addicted to heroin, for his anonominity(sp?) we shall refer to his as dickhead (thats how i refer to him anyway). lately he just stole 750 dollars from my one freinds, he was missing for 2 days and came back without 500 dollars worth. he has several warrants out and once stole a car. he owes just about every person he knows money and is ran from the police and then missed his trial date, me and my freind were planning to beat his face in if he does'nt pay back the money to my freind and if he does...we are calling the police so his dumbarse can go to jail.

moral of the story, some times you don't have to be high to have drugs f*** you up.

[GoreBag]

moral of the story, some times you don't have to be high to have drugs f*** you up.

That's the real problem with drug abuse in any case.

[Ianofsmeg16]

You can get AIDS by masturbating without a condom and we all know that getting high makes you hungry which in turn makes you very horny.

I dunno if you were joking or not BP, but that isnt true

[A.Saturnus]

Yeah, I heard that Psychiatrists have the highest rate of adiction in any profession. Not surprising really.

Well, I read it's catholic priests. Psychatrists have the highest rate of burn-out though.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

The way I see it, legalising the vast majority of drugs would solve a massive number of problems. You could tax their sale, making a large amount of revenue, and the removal of the stigma that comes with things being illegal would make it far easier for addicts to access the help they need. Furthermore, you'd instantly get rid of the illegal trade, which provides the finance for all sorts of organised crime nastiness-and this is all completely aside from the fact that it's my body, and I should be able to put whatever I damn want in it.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Alcohol and Cigars = Good

All else = Satan.

And that's a fact.

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[Kanamori]

The way I see it, legalising the vast majority of drugs would solve a massive number of problems. You could tax their sale, making a large amount of revenue, and the removal of the stigma that comes with things being illegal would make it far easier for addicts to access the help they need. Furthermore, you'd instantly get rid of the illegal trade, which provides the finance for all sorts of organised crime nastiness-and this is all completely aside from the fact that it's my body, and I should be able to put whatever I damn want in it.

Exactly. When people list most of the harms of drugs, they are really just due to the illegality. Plus, I don't understand the fetish that some have for limiting personal freedoms when they claim to be all for freedom and all for less government.

[Reenk Roink]

Alcohol and Cigars = Good

All else = Satan.

And that's a fact.

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What?

[Crazed Rabbit]

There's a freedom hater! Get him!

Seriously, the commercials I hate are the ones were they show some claymation people eating, variously, roaches/sewage/etc. and then making out and saying 'it's just like smoking'. NO IT IS NOT, (#)$&^*$ IT! Makes we want to smoke a carton just to piss them off.

Crazed Rabbit