YOUR Captain-led armies & the Reinforcement CTD bug

[Kull]

Maybe the reason why it is extremely rare is because it is in those cases that the captain gets the merit to be adopted?

If the bug is in the traits file, then that would make sense. I believe the game draws up a VIP file for the captain once he can POTENTIALLY become a family member.

That's sort of what I'm looking for. In the only existing all-captains CTD game, I was able to play my faction and just barely win (Average Victory), and it still CTD'd. Since the victory was average and the faction has 24 family members for a 21 province empire, "Man-of-the-Hour" was extremely unlikely to have occurred. However. If you back away from the battle (thus avoiding the CTD), you are presented with a new son-in-law EVERY time. So there is somebody out there who's receiving traits during the turn of the CTD. Is this a stretch? Absolutely! But until I can find another all-captain CTD game, it's impossible to determine if this is just a coincidence.

And now you know why I'm sooooo interested in getting my hands on another save game!

[Dooz]

It's weird that there aren't any CTD's being reported and posted here. I remember a while back, every other thread seemed to be about reinforcement ctd's. I haven't had a ctd myself since the latest patch, which I'm happy about but unfortunately can't contribute here.

[MaximianusBR]

im having probs with that bug but the army lead by an general

[orwell]

Does it matter what faction its with? I'm trying the independants out and there's lots of opportunities to fight re-inforcement battles with and without generals.

[Kull]

Does it matter what faction its with? I'm trying the independants out and there's lots of opportunities to fight re-inforcement battles with and without generals.

The factions are not a concern. The only requirements are :

1) Three or more armies
2) No family members/generals (i.e. all captains)

Obviously this is pretty rare, or we'd see more of them. Here's my theory, except I don't have enough evidence to confirm it:

"All-captain battles will only cause a CTD IF your faction gains a new family member on the same turn."

So one way to actively test for this is to try and set up an all-captain battle on the SAME TURN that one of your boys is going to become a general. Far less controllable, would be to have these battles when a daughter is available for marriage (although one never knows when she'll get the offer.)

NOTE: Hmmmm. Thinking about that "son grows to manhood" idea. If you can set-up an all captain's battle on that turn and it DOESN'T CTD, I'd like to see that file posted too. Post the save before the battle, so I can fight it out and then see the son coming of age. I'm not entirely sure this is the same game mechanism as that which provides husbands (in terms of timing and such), so it may not be a good test of the theory.

[Dayve]

I'm going to spend a couple of hours helping with this issue now... I'll play on easy and use the add money cheat and try to get as many captain battles as possible...

But in my game i get the reinforcement CTD even if there are generals, you guys know about this one right? (I haven't read the bug forums for months, haven't been playing EB much as i'm waiting for the port).

[Dayve]

Right i've just had one battle with 2 of my armies led by captains against one enemy army led by a captain, fought the battle out and no CTD, so Kull, your theory may be right. I'll try and get more.

Just had another. 2 armies of mine led by captains against 2 armies of Makedonia led by captains. Played out the battle and no CTD.

Another. 2 captain led armies of mine, 1 captain led makedonian army, no CTD. (I am losing these battles btw).

And another - 2 armies of mine led by captains against a makedonian captain led army. No CTD.

I'm playing as the Epirotes, haven't taken any cities, don't have any sons/daughters coming of age and so no new family members could have appeared whilst doing those 4 battles.