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    Wojewoda Pruski Member Loucipher's Avatar
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    Well, if no-one wants to marry your princes, just wait until they get on the "side-branch" (i.e. cease to be princes), then marry your own princesses to them. You shall have a "invisible spare princes", ready to take over should your main line die. Just watch their loyalty - they sometimes like to make things like that happen faster, like by means of a civil war!
    Your king, even if he hasn't been married already, will wait just a couple of years before taking a wife from within a populace. Just don't get him killed before this happens - unless you have another prince to spare.
    Personally, I have never had a problem with my line. Theory is that your line might die off within ten years (your king has only one son, and dies before his son matures). Practically, you have to be seriously struck by some ill-fate to actually see this happen. I always have at least two sons waiting for the crown. And should I actually have just one, then make sure there are married uncles to take over should the oddball assassin come through...
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    Just ask the Sicilians. They always have a few spare princesses and they're often willing to part with a few of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebktruck
    Just ask the Sicilians. They always have a few spare princesses and they're often willing to part with a few of them.


    There's often one faction somewere that's willing to share thier princesses, most often the Sicilians or the Danes.
    And you don't always need to be at peace with them.
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    I just cant seem to get any one to marry my offspring no matter how nice I am. I can be allied to to the faction, Offer one of my princesess hands in mrriage first but when I ask for the favour returned I get regretfully declined.
    How would you feel if you married my sister and I married yours?

    Jokes aside, non-ally factions seem okay sharing their princesses with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weebeast
    How would you feel if you married my sister and I married yours?

    Jokes aside, non-ally factions seem okay sharing their princesses with me.
    Hell, nothing that uncommon, actually My brother and I are married to two ladies who happen to be sisters

    Jokes aside, it is true that minor factions (Sicilians, Danes and also Aragonese) seem to be real princess-spammers. Of course, they also have their host of (mostly) unmarried princes, so there you go, trade your royal kin with them all the way you like
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    Sometimes you're just hated, and that's it. As the Byzantines in my current early/hard campaign I'm finding it impossible to achieve peace or form any alliances. Marriages are not happening, my latest prince married his sister... Since I've conquered more provinces it has got worse. This is how it goes sometimes.
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    I sympathise too, at some point it just becomes impossible, and very frustrating. The Danes often leave 3-4 princesses sitting idly in more port province without allowing any of them to marry despite repeated requests. And yes, I have wiped them out for being so damn annoying, more than once!

    When playing a Muslim faction, I often jump up and down with joy and amazement if I can get anyone to marry my sons, even the above-mentioned Danes and Sicilians. Catholic Kings don't seem to want to give their precious little girls away to nasty evil Turks and suchlike, and of course Muslim factions don't produce princesses. Does anyone know if Muslim factions are gifted with a slightly higher 'son and heir guarantee' to make up for the fact that it's hard to marry off sons and thus produce earlier heirs?

    I can only remember one historical example of a Western ruler even attempting to negotiate a Muslim/non-Muslim marriage, that being Richard the Lionheart's effort to get his sister hitched to Saladin's brother (or nephew?). The deal fell through anyway, but she was not apparently amused...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loucipher
    Hell, nothing that uncommon, actually My brother and I are married to two ladies who happen to be sisters
    Hehe, i sometimes think, that you was to lazy to find your woman elsewhere.

    No offence bro. Joking.

    I find, that in modded version politics, and marriages are extremely difficult to seal. There is relatively low problem marrying your prince or princes to your neigbour in vanilla or VI.
    But i figured out, that ceasefires are more succesfull, if you propose a marriage to your enemy, rather seal it with your emissary. Maybe it was only accident not a rule...
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    Your princesses must be to ugle have you looked at those pictures ugh!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai
    Hehe, i sometimes think, that you was to lazy to find your woman elsewhere.

    No offence bro. Joking.
    Your sense of humour is really amusing at times, bro

    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai
    I find, that in modded version politics, and marriages are extremely difficult to seal. There is relatively low problem marrying your prince or princes to your neigbour in vanilla or VI.
    This leads me to think that the politics must be associated with internal engine of the game. I assume that no sane modder would try to make these things deliberately worse. But mods do alter the overall game balance at times, thence A.I. factions can find it more difficult to strike alliances...
    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodai
    But i figured out, that ceasefires are more succesfull, if you propose a marriage to your enemy, rather seal it with your emissary. Maybe it was only accident not a rule...
    I'd rather consider it a rule. Diplomatic missions carried out by princesses are always more successful than those carried out by emissaries. It is even written on the info parchments, remember?
    The more curious fact observed by me is the fact that when you send your princess to an enemy faction with ceasefire request, she might become married in the process (if your enemy has princes to spare or his king is unmarried, he might accept the marriage proposal). In this case your diplomatic stance with that faction goes all the way up to Ally, instead of Neutral (the marriage is considered to be a royal alliance). Sometimes, you can use this to your advantage to abruptly end some unsuitable conflict and turn against new foes (especially those at war with your new ally). As a result, your influence will often rise sky high, especially when you manage to win a war against a stronger faction, then manoeuver them into marrying your princes. With such means at your disposal, the diplomacy in M:TW takes on a whole new dimension...
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