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InsaneApache 11:51 03-27-2006
But dumber than the Germans.

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BRITAIN and France have experienced long periods of conflict and rivalry but now victory in one area can be claimed: Britons are more intelligent than the French.
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But it is not all good news. Top of the table were the Germans, with an IQ of 107. The British were also beaten by the Netherlands, Poland, Sweden, Italy, Austria and Switzerland.
clicky

I wonder what the deal would be if the US was included? Are some US states smarter than others?



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Banquo's Ghost 12:09 03-27-2006
Hmm. If the article is anything to go by, Professor Lynn's methodology leaves a lot to be desired. He appears to be the latest in a long line of bump-feelers and cranium measurers.

I'm glad to see our national stereotype in Ireland being confirmed.

I love this quote:

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Professor Lynn ascribes the differences between British and French intelligence levels to the results of military conflict. He described it as “a hitherto unrecognised law of history” that “the side with the higher IQ normally wins, unless they are hugely outnumbered, as Germany was after 1942”.


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Kanamori 12:28 03-27-2006
At any rate, we all know that the results are true, so crituiqing the study does no good at all.

Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
Are some US states smarter than others?
Don't ask questions that are likely to hurt feelings. So rude.

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Louis VI the Fat 12:47 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by Article:
In France, IQ scores in Paris were much higher than those in rural areas.


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Rodion Romanovich 13:29 03-27-2006
Just an obvious question: was the IQ test questions in English or German

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Dutch_guy 13:36 03-27-2006
Beaten by the Germans ...reminds me of '74...

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Just an obvious question: was the IQ test questions in English or German
And judging by Germanies results I'd say the test was in German .



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doc_bean 13:48 03-27-2006
We've had a discussion on IQ tests before, they're pretty worthless really...

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Viking 13:51 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by doc_bean:
We've had a discussion on IQ tests before, they're pretty worthless really...
Beat me to it.

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King Henry V 15:04 03-27-2006
I see that the Celtic genes are dragging Britain down. ;-)

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KukriKhan 15:11 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by InsaneApache:
But dumber than the Germans.





clicky

I wonder what the deal would be if the US was included? Are some US states smarter than others?

http://www.sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm

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Kanamori 15:26 03-27-2006
Well, Texas is pretty similar to France, but Wisconsin is nicely placed.

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Kraxis 15:48 03-27-2006
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Professor Lynn ascribes the differences between British and French intelligence levels to the results of military conflict. He described it as “a hitherto unrecognised law of history” that “the side with the higher IQ normally wins, unless they are hugely outnumbered, as Germany was after 1942”.
HA!!!

If that was true then USA should be significantly more intelligent than the rest of us. Especially agaisnt Japan it seems. Nice little flawed theory.

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DemonArchangel 16:30 03-27-2006
Thing is Kraxis, the Russians are hardly a dumb people.

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BDC 16:34 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by Kraxis:
HA!!!

If that was true then USA should be significantly more intelligent than the rest of us. Especially agaisnt Japan it seems. Nice little flawed theory.
America is huge. Therefore it outnumbers most of its enemies.

Britain is small, and is therefore outnumbered. Yet we still win. Geniuses.

;)

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Major Robert Dump 16:41 03-27-2006
I dont think SATs and ACTs accurately reflect IQ, because aside from the test its mostly little snot nosed kids who take them, and in many cases they take them 2,3,4,5 times between the ages of 16-18 so they can get a better and better score.

Oh, and an american company just admitted to miscoring a few thousand over the last couple years, and admits they havent been doing double checks on scores

the best way to guage IQ is average breast size of the female population

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doc_bean 16:52 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
the best way to guage IQ is average breast size of the female population
The Netherlands and Belgium would rule such a survey !

Poor Japan though...

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Scurvy 16:53 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump:
its mostly little snot nosed kids who take them, and in many cases they take them 2,3,4,5 times between the ages of 16-18 so they can get a better and better score.

the best way to guage IQ is average breast size of the female population
i resent that comment, we deserve some respect

i agree with the last bit though

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King Henry V 16:58 03-27-2006
So would that mean that women with large breasts had larger IQs?

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doc_bean 16:59 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by King Henry V:
So would that mean that women with large breasts had larger IQs?
Does it matter ?

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Rank Bajin 17:12 03-27-2006


Well if I am actually following this guy's work, it must mean that the Scots must have dropped points in the past few years.

In the book The Wealth of Nations, which he had co-authored with Tatu Vanhanen in 2003, he actually placed the average Scottish IQ as being 104 (Northern Ireland's was also put down as 102) thus it was much higher than the UK average. Now the Scottish figure has gone down to 97.

What the hell has happened? Have us Scots actually got more dumber over the last few years or perhaps it might actually be something to do with the really big influx of English immigrants which have been settling here in the past few years or so...

For all I know he might have got his results from the average Old Firm supporter - which will actually make the Scottish figure look alot of sense actually, well even though I would think it is still very generous in their regards.

Or could it even be that this fellow is, well... talking a load of bollocks?

:edit: Some spelling mistakes

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Kraxis 17:18 03-27-2006
Originally Posted by DemonArchangel:
Thing is Kraxis, the Russians are hardly a dumb people.
I'm not sure what you mean... But as far as I know Russia/SU has won more wars than it has lost. Therefor the population should be pretty intelligent.

Btw, dumb = don't know much. That doesn't mean you can't be intelligent. Also you can be very intelligent and still quite dumb.

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LeftEyeNine 18:30 03-27-2006
Yippee-yay ! We are above Serbians but still at the bottom

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Blodrast 01:37 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by doc_bean:
Does it matter ?
Excellent point !
I wonder how silicone would influence the results though... would it qualify as artificial intelligence ?

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Faust| 04:19 03-28-2006
"Professor Lynn, who caused controversy last year by claiming that men were more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, said that populations in the colder, more challenging environments of Northern Europe had developed larger brains than those in warmer climates further south."

Both may be true, but what a bastard!

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Avicenna 08:00 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by wikipedia:
Hmm

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Ironside 08:34 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by Faust|:
"Professor Lynn, who caused controversy last year by claiming that men were more intelligent than women by about five IQ points on average, said that populations in the colder, more challenging environments of Northern Europe had developed larger brains than those in warmer climates further south."

Both may be true, but what a bastard!
I'm wondering what he's saying about the fact that the IQ has increased about 20 points since the first tests.
We have really improved genetically the last 100 years

And brain size and IQ has a quite low correlation when it comes to humans anyway.

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Rodion Romanovich 08:48 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by Ironside:
I'm wondering what he's saying about the fact that the IQ has increased about 20 points since the first tests.
We have really improved genetically the last 100 years
Not to mention how easy it is to improve yourself genetically in a few hours of practicing IQ test It's possible to improve by some 20-50 points or so with a little practise

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Banquo's Ghost 09:23 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by Ironside:
I'm wondering what he's saying about the fact that the IQ has increased about 20 points since the first tests.
We have really improved genetically the last 100 years

And brain size and IQ has a quite low correlation when it comes to humans anyway.
Aye, and since Italy came in high up, it rather knocks a hole in both his theory of North v South, and the war-winning thing.

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Fragony 10:56 03-28-2006
We dutch rule along with ze germans, 107 on average

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Vladimir 14:09 03-28-2006
Originally Posted by Tiberius:
Hmm
What? All I see are 4 differently colored Cyclones.

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