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    I've something similar a while ago. As I remember it had some different results:
    US: 99
    Japan: 110
    Netherlands: 100
    Belgium: 101
    Germans: 104
    Korea (Don't know if it was north or south, I guess it was south): 107

    These were the numbers I rememered. I've looked this up a while ago because of a thread here called are Americans dumber or something similar.

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    Ahh, Professor Lynn. Unfortunately for most of his publications IQ-tests are not that easily comparable as he would like to have it. IQ-tests are usually localized, what makes them uncomparable. Unlocalized tests have the danger of being culturally unfair. Unless you use tests that only test fluid intelligence (which is culture independent). But that would compromise ecological validity. What he does is not voodoo science but IQ-tests simply can't do what he wants them to do.
    He also is much to quick to jump to conclusions (which may have to do with media attention). He may have had some data that says that men are more intelligent than women, but I've seen numerous, large studies that found no difference. It's commonly accepted in psychmetrics that men and women are equal in IQ. But there are structural differences in their IQ, which makes fairness of the tests very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
    He may have had some data that says that men are more intelligent than women, but I've seen numerous, large studies that found no difference. It's commonly accepted in psychmetrics that men and women are equal in IQ. But there are structural differences in their IQ, which makes fairness of the tests very important.
    The average man has more braincells than the average women, according to what I`ve read. But that doesn`t necessarily have anything to do with intelligence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    The average man has more braincells than the average women, according to what I`ve read. But that doesn`t necessarily have anything to do with intelligence.
    The average man is also slightly bigger that the average woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    The average man is also slightly bigger that the average woman.
    But you can`t make a conclusion out of that, can you? It could be the same number in proportion, ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    The average man is also slightly bigger that the average woman.
    As long as it’s the brain that’s being measured (and not the belly, hips or rump) it would make sense. It does in the comics.
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    More/bigger brain smart does not make.

    Average intelligence of a population is also very meaningless.

    IQ tests are very meaningless.

    Bank acount means everything.

    Any arguments?

    PS: Do Britons not live in France? I don't think UK people count as Briton anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    But dumber than the Germans.


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    We beat France!

    Not that surprising. Shaving and soap really boosts IQ

    Or does it? Muwhahahaha! We shall never know that it is really a manaical plot to world dominatioN!

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    Well since my IQ is significantly higher then the average Frenchman - that must make me smarter then all the French combined.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Germans prove to be superior yet again. (Even if the test is BS)

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    Germans prove to be superior yet again.
    For something to be proven "yet again" then it is usually expected to have had it proven in the first place .

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    Good nationalist identification thread anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    The average man has more braincells than the average women, according to what I`ve read. But that doesn`t necessarily have anything to do with intelligence.
    Just like a chip it is the number of concurrent connections and speed of processing that determines the ability to crunch numbers.

    A large brain that works slowly and/or has few connections can be less intellignet then a smaller brain with more connections per cell.

    If anything you need to compare the number and complexity of connections to get an indication of intelligence... and even then that does not give you any idea if they connections are flexible (the ability to learn something new for instance).
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    Here's an interesting article. Maybe the French suffer from getting too smart too fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gertgregoor
    Netherlands: 100
    Belgium: 101
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    Obviously this cannot be. I have seen your roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Obviously this cannot be. I have seen your roads.
    lol, yeah our roads. But Why is it then Dutch always get lost when they're here while we can always find our ways here and in the Netherlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gertgregoor
    lol, yeah our roads. But Why is it then Dutch always get lost when they're here while we can always find our ways here and in the Netherlands.
    ;)
    Finding your way in the Netherlands is easy, there are roadsigns and that sort of stuff. But in Belgium....madness. I was in Brugge this week, dear god. Stopped at a red light and found myselve on a friggin freeway, who on earth put that thing there???? The fact that there are still a few belgians left is the best argument for intelligent design I have ever heard.

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    I have to agree. Belgium is a nightmare to drive through. The signage is, at best, confusing, wrong or even non-existant.
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    I have to agree. Belgium is a nightmare to drive through. The signage is, at best, confusing, wrong or even non-existant.
    That is in case the GERMANS invade again

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    I have to agree. Belgium is a nightmare to drive through. The signage is, at best, confusing, wrong or even non-existant.
    But you can see the roads at night. From space!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust|
    That is in case the GERMANS invade again
    We're smart enough to have MAPS.


    Unlike the French.*





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    HUMANS INSIST THEY ARE NOT DUMBER THAN RICE - Many believed to be correct

    For some reason that seemed pretty appropriate here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    Finding your way in the Netherlands is easy, there are roadsigns and that sort of stuff. But in Belgium....madness. I was in Brugge this week, dear god. Stopped at a red light and found myselve on a friggin freeway, who on earth put that thing there???? The fact that there are still a few belgians left is the best argument for intelligent design I have ever heard.
    Sorry if we made it not easy enough

    I have never experienced problems in Brugge about finding my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    Germans prove to be superior yet again. (Even if the test is BS)
    You know what Panzer youre right. The Germans in some ways are just superior to other races. Of course I doubt theyll do anything with this information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    You know what Panzer youre right. The Germans in some ways are just superior to other races. Of course I doubt theyll do anything with this information.

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    These days I suspect they'd mostly get very anxious and try to change the topic. I'm under the strong impression, also from personal contact with a few Germans, that they've developed a cultural knee-jerk rejection of certain types of ideas.

    Can't blame them, really.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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    I read a book once called "Guns, Germs and Steel."

    The author said that people in the Philipines teneded to be the most intelligant because they had a healthy lifestyle and a low population density, so if they got killed it was because they did something stupid, rather than because of disease or all out war.

    By contrast Europeans weren't as intelligant but they were more robust and tenacious. My father would maintain that the graph posted above is accurate and he's been all over the world.

    In any case IQ is dodgy and intelligance is usually as much culture as genetics, at least.
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    Genetics, or at least heredity, is pretty irrelevant. "Intelligence is an aquired trait." It's one of those "use it or lose it" issues.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

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