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    TexMec Senior Member Louis VI the Fat's Avatar
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    Default Re : Islamic Art: Where are the Women?

    Well this is how the Persians reproduce:



    Contrary to common disbelief, figural secular art is not forbidden under islam. There are plenty of islamic paintings of women that would break the forum rules. But museums are a bit wary about exhibiting them nowadays, you can guess why I presume.
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    Well I was hoping to learn about ANY depictions of the female form, not just the one's I'd rather see.


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    Islam forbids the depictation of Muhammed, eventually this prohibition was perceived and resulted in a halt of any depictations/illustrations in Islam world in general. Ottomans have some miniature artists that used to make brief depictations of several padishahs, a part of an army etc. However I'm not sure if they ever illustrated the female body. That would be something "hard" to do in those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    Islam forbids the depictation of Muhammed, eventually this prohibition was perceived and resulted in a halt of any depictations/illustrations in Islam world in general. Ottomans have some miniature artists that used to make brief depictations of several padishahs, a part of an army etc. However I'm not sure if they ever illustrated the female body. That would be something "hard" to do in those times.
    You know, once I had borrowed an Osprey book, and in it you see depictions of Muhammed from inside early mosques, of course the images have since been etched off again. But I found it very interesting.
    Supposedly from the places these pictures were taken it was fairly widespread in the middle east and Persia (as in, not located in a specific region, numbers can be speculated on). Sadly I don't remember which one it was, but it could be the one that deals with Yarmuk or the initial expansion of Islam.

    The point is, that apparently those early muslims were not as certain about that rule. Of course they could easily have been a very small minority.
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    It's my understanding that this Iconoclastic movement within Islam is a recent development. I know the Eastern and Western Catholic churches had a hell of a fight over this. There's been a depiction of Mohamed in the Supreme Court building since it was built.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir
    It's my understanding that this Iconoclastic movement within Islam is a recent development. I know the Eastern and Western Catholic churches had a hell of a fight over this. There's been a depiction of Mohamed in the Supreme Court building since it was built.
    Where is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    Where is that?
    SCOTUS, Supreme Court of the United States, Washington DC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraxis
    Where is that?
    i found the image Shhhh, dont tell.
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