So, why can't the folks who end up coming in illegally come in legally then ? Land of opportunity and all that ?
And I'll snort derisively at anyone who suggests the problem's with them.
Re: What do you think of Bush NOW?
So, why can't the folks who end up coming in illegally come in legally then ? Land of opportunity and all that ?
And I'll snort derisively at anyone who suggests the problem's with them.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
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I have no problems with increasing the number of legally admitted aliens from any part of the world, actually.Originally Posted by Watchman
There does reach a certain point where our human services infrastructure can no longer keep up though. If everyone is entitled to health care, regardless of their ability to pay (and despite what you might have heard, that IS the law of the land here in the USA), hospitals have to raise costs on everyone else to recoup their losses from treating immigrants.
Prove that you're going to work, pay taxes and be a constructive member of society and come on in. Come for a free ride and I say stay home.
What's more, as I pointed out in the Port Authority discussions... there's no reason for us to be worried that the UAE would allow terrorists in.... if terrorists want in, all they have to do is walk across the Rio Grande like everyone else.
Oh, and by the way.. the Mexican government is a bunch of hypocrites. The rules that are being debated in Congress right now are already on the Mexican books... if the Mexican authorities catch an undocumented Guatamalan, off to jail they go.
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Re: What do you think of Bush NOW?
Then prepare to snort in derision. If you decide to violate the law in my country by coming here illegally, I don't think you deserve to be a part of the land of opportunity. Allowing illegals in here takes away from opportunity - those of actual US citizens. Why should employers in Texas and California hire citizens, who demand better wages and such? And thus US citizens suffer, in addition to the cost of supporting those who cannot contribute to the nation as a whole.
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Good job missing much of the point. So it's the fault of the illegals that unscrupulous natives woud rather hire them for nominal wages rather than go the legal way ? R-i-i-i-i-ght.
I'd blame dubious business ethics, widespread, myself, in that regard.
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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I'll whole-heartedly agree with you - we need to drop the hammer on businesses that employ illegal immigrants. But that doesn't mean we should let illegal immigrants in scot-free just because Americans are also breaking the law. They should still be shown the door. It's a slap in the face to legal immigrants that we allow this to continue.
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There's actually a pretty simple solution to stemming the influx of illegal immigrants from poorer regions to richer rgions. Two, in fact, although one's really just semantics.
First, just let everyone in legally. No such thing as "illegal immigrant" anymore, right ?
Two, help the poorer regions get rich enough that people no longer want to move out of there en masse in search of better prospects. This is really sort of how like it's kinda pointless to wage "war on drugs" so long it's not economically viable for Colombian peasants to cultivate legal crops instead of poppy in face of competition from massively subsidized US agribusiness and no toll barrier for defense.
Simple in theory. Complicated in practice, all the more so as so far as I can tell the US has been pursuing roughly the polarly opposed policies vis-a-vis the main sources of "illegals" for quite a while...
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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You're funny!First, just let everyone in legally. No such thing as "illegal immigrant" anymore, right ?
So do we just send them all a monthly check or what?Two, help the poorer regions get rich enough that people no longer want to move out of there en masse in search of better prospects. This is really sort of how like it's kinda pointless to wage "war on drugs" so long it's not economically viable for Colombian peasants to cultivate legal crops instead of poppy in face of competition from massively subsidized US agribusiness and no toll barrier for defense.
If we stopped the widespread employement opportunities for illegal immigrants, we could solve the problem without resorting to the above ridiculous proposals.
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Yeah, well, that's not going to happen without a sea change in the value-sets of Americans then - namely the willingness to cut corners and hire illegals on the cheap rather than obey laws.
I wonder if it's that "social trust" thing again...?
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
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