Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
...and what all that amounts to is still The Evil Comes From The Outside. Not a second of wondering why things are going to Hell in handbasket when in the past immigration generally worked just fine (what now the already-established tended to resent the newly-arrived...), or why the newer arrivals don't feel like belonging in their new environs. Or if the curious issue of presumably reasonably affluent Americans being willing and, one suspects, eager to pay sub-minimum wage to illegals instead of hiring legally to do the same chores might be one of the roots of the problem, or for that matter grounds for some critical self-reflection.

No. It's them damn greaser Mexican illegals. The Evil Comes From The Outside.

Did you know, I understand the spread of that attitude has tended to be characteristic of societies in decline with increasingly insoluble structural problems throughout history...? Other, related, symptoms have tended to include growing tendencies towards xenophobia, isolationism and general, often romantic and nostalgic, introvertism and longing after "better times when all was right"...
So, we enforce our laws, try to keep our social spending at an affordable level, and we're racist? Beautiful, way to encourage a dialogue...

If I were a Mexican, here legally, I would be more upset about all the illegals than anyone. You're giving the illegals free services that the legal immigrants have to pay for too, and they actually had to stand in line at the embassy to get their paperwork. Hardly seems fair.

For the record, I would imagine left leaning progressives, such as yourself would be the first to stand against illegal immigration. The only reason it's allowed is to artificially force wages down. Your statement about affluent Americans being unwilling to perform menial tasks betrays your ignorance of America. In fact, plenty of people WOULD work in construction, housekeeping, garbage collection, restaurants, etc. if they were paid a living wage. The only people that can live on $6.00/hour are those that aren't paying any taxes. If you're born here, the IRS has you in their ledgers at birth. No such restrictions on the newly arrived undocumenteds.