Celt berserkers vs Lombardi berserkers

[Drusus Magnus]

I did a custom battle, all Celts against all Lombards. The latter won, with a substantial difference. I think 500 dead Celts against 300 Lombards. Also, the Celt ones got out of berserk status, too, and some even routed. Excellent morale my codpiece.

[Antagonist]

I just looked at the 1.6 stats, and the Hounds have definately been hit hard statwise. IIRC there was a small difference between them and the Lombards in 1.4, in 1.6 it is much more pronounced. Lombards have 14 Attack and 9 Defence, while Hounds have 11 and 5 respectively. They both seem to have the same base morale though, and charge bonus.

They're definately a lot weaker now. Statistically, Gallowglasses are quite a bit stronger than them (although they lack the Berserk ability and have lower morale) Perhaps the disparity is intended to underscore the difference between playable and non-playable factions? (Alemanni can build Lombards)

Antagonist

[player1]

Don't forget that Hounds have armor piercering maces.
That reduces enemy armor for half.

So it's obvious that lombard will beat hound, since hound main advantage is negated (lombards have no armor).

Maybe better test is to try and see how much is each of them effective against unit of roman comits.

[Slug For A Butt]

Really only makes a difference against the real heavies of the Roman army. Unless I was fighting against them I'd have to go for the Lombards every damn time, they are simply better all rounders.

And if you test as either Hounds vs Lombards or Lombards vs Hounds the AI will get out of berserk all the time. It is an AI thing, not a unit thing.