The futility of upgrading stone walls

[Slug For A Butt]

Rhubarbmisterwellington you will have a problem then if the enemy decide to starve you out.
I usually upgrade to normal stone walls and have a couple of units of archers among my defenders stationed in my cities. No problem with the Gatling gun towers if they attack, and if it looks like they are going to starve me out I can sally and draw them close enough to the walls to commit genocide. Try that with a pallisade...
Also, you will find that you are attacked by numerous rams, so how can you defend against 1000 strong armies with only six units with any certainty? If you have a stone wall you can sally before they attack and your walls will kill many more enemies than crap pallisade towers would (BTW I play no time limit which makes it easier I guess, I just dont like the idea of Julius Caesar saying "cmon lads lets just rush 'em as I'm on a tight schedule here").

[Ciaran]

I can´t remember fighting a defensive siege battle in all my time of playing RTW, so far. Either my garrison is strong enough to sally out and destroy the besiegers or I only have peasants and playing any kind of battle only with those holds no appeal whatsoever for me.

[Severous]

Ive not had any big seige battles...well not up on the walls or in the gates. Would get too many of my troops hurt

Against Athens I split my two seige towers and ladders. Once deployment was over I could move the equipment around and found ways over the walls unopposed and in areas not subject to defending tower fire.

When defending a seige I tend to send mobile units out to harass and distract the enemy.

This was different. Near the end of my Julii campaign.

I am assaulting the Trace town. Complicated by a stronger relief force also in play. Spys got me in. Captured a gate. Ran the walls, captured the towers. I now controlled the gates, wall and towers. The Thrace outnumber me, they control the Plaza and relief forces are trying to break in through the gates my spy opened...(and I cant now shut !). Thracian will later rout 'in' as they are all classed defenders.

Most the reinforcing Thracians marched to the gate I had captured first. Meaning they marched past the wall towers I had captured.

You can see the carpet of dead Thracians outside the walls.

[Ciaran]

Siege assaults
If there´s a part in RTW that is in dire need of improvement, that´s it. Labyrinth cities, auto-firing towers, a horrible pathfinding within the cities (did you notice units don´t use the whole available free space between two buildings, no, they use no more than the width of the street)...

[player1]

I hate labyrinths.
Especially if in order to get to the towem center you need to go through every possible corner of city (taking tower casualties all the time). Makes sapping very week option.