"A Chance for Power"

[Avicenna]

I don't think Rome can trigger it, because Rome starts out with the Imperial Palace anyway. Also, even if Segesta, Patavium or Melodanium can, they all probably have too little in the way of population.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't think Rome can trigger it, because Rome starts out with the Imperial Palace anyway. Also, even if Segesta, Patavium or Melodanium can, they all probably have too little in the way of population.

You may be right about Rome, but I disagree on Patavium's potential. If you occupy the city and leave a governor in, it grows fast enough to be the first huge city. In my most recent Julii campaign, Patavium triggered Marius for me.

[Ciaran]

but most likely the Senate would provoke the war themselves (by trying to wipe out your family with suicide orders) long before.

Just how do you achieve that? I´ve tried - repeatedly! - with all Roman factions to leave the Senate alone until they start harrassing me, which never, ever, not once has happened so far. I usually have fifty-something provinces (so a civil war would be short), almost all non-Roman factions are vanished and my popularity with the plebs is sky-high, still my Senate rating is somewhere at level three and won´t go lower. The "Chance to Power" message I´ve already got at around thirty provinces, it would be nice if the Civil War started at about the same time.