New Unit at the com: Armoured Swordsmen

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 03-31-2006, 12:11

http://www.totalwar.com/community/arm.htm

**anti_strunt** · 03-31-2006, 13:03

So the English didn't fight dismounted as a cunning tactical device, but because they couldn't afford horses???

Humbug!

I was just starting to look forward to this game.

His sword looks stupid too.

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**caravel** · 03-31-2006, 13:09

Looks like some kind of Gladius, and not in any way medieval. Oh and he could afford the best armour and weapons, but the horse was stretching it a bit too much. The Hobilars and Mounted Sergeants could afford their's though, whcih must have cost nearly as much to feed and keep even if they were probably alot cheaper to aquire.

**anti_strunt** · 03-31-2006, 13:13

So, wait, does this elaborate explanation for a completely foot-bound unit of English knights mean that cavalry will no longer be able to dismount? Because if they could, there would be no reason for this unit to exist, but since it does... Oh man.

**screwtype** · 03-31-2006, 13:28

LOL, yeah the sword looks all wrong, like a Roman gladius. And I find it kind of hard to believe that someone could afford all that armour and not a horse to go with it!

Not too impressed with the helmet either. I hope we are not going to have too many full face helms in this game, I doubt their use was so widespread.

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 03-31-2006, 13:40

The unit will probably undergo change so nets worried too much just yet

**wraithdt** · 03-31-2006, 17:31

I wasn't really impressed too; its just ok by my book. I agree with most of you about the sword and I also would have preferred an opened-face bascinet over what he's wearing now.

anti strunt: The description on the unit did not say that they're knights. Its says that they're minor gentries who couldn't afford horses thus denying them of that status. They're most likely elite 'swordsmen' like the chivalric men-at-arm in MTW and not knights.

**anti_strunt** · 03-31-2006, 18:20

Originally Posted by wraithdt

anti strunt: The description on the unit did not say that they're knights. Its says that they're minor gentries who couldn't afford horses thus denying them of that status. They're most likely elite 'swordsmen' like the chivalric men-at-arm in MTW and not knights.

Knight or not isn't really the point (and it's a moot point anyway, since unknighted gentry would usually serve in the same units on the battlefield, in the rear ranks). The argument itself is also pretty odd; it's ridiculous to think that these minor gentry people could afford a full panoply of armour, including a coat-of-plates and a (visored?) great helm and not a horse; a horse was a very important status symbol, and gentlemen would be very much more likely to buy less, cheaper armour for themselves than fight as footmen if money was short.

And there is of course the fact that there shouldn't be any such thing as elite foot swordmen in the first place...