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    Master of Puppets Member hellenes's Avatar
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    Default Re: Is the public THAT stupid?

    What looks "cooler" this:



    or this





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    That one hands down.
    But on the other hand I always loved the headhurlers so maybe that wasn't a good comparison.
    Last edited by TB666; 04-04-2006 at 18:29.

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    Default Re: Sv: Re: Is the public THAT stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by TB666
    That one hands down.
    But on the other hand I always loved the headhurlers so maybe that wasn't a good comparison.
    I suspect most RTW buyers would agree with you. EB presents a guy in dull coloured clothing and a sword against RTWs David Beckham hurling a head. Beckham wins hands down in the mass market "coolness" factor.

    And I think that is true with nearly all the ahistorical units/features that offended with vanilla RTW - the dogs, pigs, screeching women, the druids, the Imperial Romans arriving too early, the pharoah-type Egyptians, the flaming onagers of death, the scythed chariots (EB is thinking of pulling them), the machinegun archery, the uber leaping cavalry etc etc. I suspect they all added variety and spice to the mass market players. Those like myself who see TW as a historical wargame have to accept we are in a small (vocal) minority here.

    I don't think the public are stupid - they are just not history buffs and don't place historical accuracy high up on the list when buying a strategy game.

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    Its not that Im as a history fan dislike fantasy...
    Its just that I hate travesties of cheap bastadization between historicall accuracy and someones sick imagination that is attempted to pass as historically immersive.
    I want my historical game historical and my fantasy game fantasy.
    I find it baffling how you cant see this guy with a HUGE double handed sword that has the place for that sword on his back (like samurai) as "cool" I find him much "cooler" than a cartoony blond boy that thows heads...
    I have no problem with fantasy like:


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    Default Re: Is the public THAT stupid?

    Quote Originally Posted by hellenes
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    I want my historical game historical and my fantasy game fantasy......

    Hellenes
    Exactly. I have no problems with super fast elves and would be more likely to buy a fantasy TW than another unrealistic TW game that bugs me.
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    Default Re: Sv: Re: Is the public THAT stupid?

    I wouldnt categorize myself as a "history buff", but if you're gonna make a game like TW with a historical setting then it should have more than a smidgen of reality. Without that gaming aspect, it's just another RTS and should be compared to games such as AoE (that can be fun but dont pretend to be "wargames" or wargame-like).
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