The problem with Islam

[Reenk Roink]

You mean bisdes the part where the north africans try to capture Spain and the ottamns are on Italys and Germanys doorstep? This is a load of mularky. I fail to see how any of KC points could even be considered a reason why muslims do tthe things they do. I feel no responsibilty and you shouldnt ethier. Using European colonaztion/imprealism is a huge cop out used to make us feel sorry.

Of course they invaded those areas, and there were counter invasions and the sort. My point in that statement was that neither the Muslim or European worlds actually dominated each other until the fairly recent rise of colonialism. If you had read more closely, and stripped yourself of a defensive position that you adopt when I point out certain facts of history between Americans and Natives/Mexicans, you would see that my thesis was that only very recently has the West in any significant way interfered with the 'Muslim world' (as it has for most of the world).

So, first we lump together a massive area of land from the borders of China Morocco and state that they are all somehow the same. I imagine that by the same light they all peacefully converted to Islam

No, we simplify it a bit, and call it the "Muslim World", just as we call Europe the "Western" or "Christian World." We never imply that they are "the same" as they're were feuds between groups all the time only surpassed by the infighting in Europe, or imagine that they all "peacefully converted" when many Muslim rulers prefered having the Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians keep their religion for tax income and many even imposed the tax on converts. These off-topic, obviously anti-Islam comments are thouroughly unnecessary...

Right, the crusades. They were to retake the Holy Land. Remember that christianity was around BEFORE Islam. So they attacked. Revelation I know. And the conquest of the Balklands and Spain by the Muslims appears to also have been ignored.

Again, off topic. And quite a bad way to justify colonialism...

Or is there an actual point to that statement?

Then we appear to sidestep the fact that the Middle East has had despots since at least 500BC!!!

OMG!!!

Probably even before that too...

But perhaps we could cross out "Middle East" and replace it with "Europe" for another true statement...

Or is there an actual point to that statement?

"Better to remain silent and for people to think you are ignorant than to speak and for peple to know you are"

This statement reeks of arrogance and unfortunately, lacks self-awareness...