V for Vendetta

[Moros]

Best film ever. Really I tought it was a darn good movie.
What did you guys think?

[Scurvy]

i thought it was very good, i especially liked the buildings exploding with the music in the background.... i didnt follow some of the plot though it all got a bit complicated towards the end...

[Moros]

yeah the plot was verry good indeed. When most movies or series make such a plot they most of the time can't find a logic end anymore.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I have to admit, I was dreading this being released. I'm a huge Alan Moore fan, and the other film adaptations of his books have been embarrassingly bad. V pleasantly suprised me, however-they got most of the main plot points in, and it was very slickly produced. They played V's anarchist tendencies down a bit, but that's fairly understandable, I think.

The only thing that really niggled me about it was the number of British idioms in the script. The frequency that the characters managed to work 'bloody', 'bollocks', 'wanker', etc into sentences was unreal, and not at all true to life. It felt to me like labouring the point that it was set in the UK a bit.

[Moros]

The only thing that really niggled me about it was the number of British idioms in the script. The frequency that the characters managed to work 'bloody', 'bollocks', 'wanker', etc into sentences was unreal, and not at all true to life. It felt to me like labouring the point that it was set in the UK a bit.

yeah I did remeber they said bollocks alot...like an English won't have another word.

Just a question but I remember all those quotes and stuff, were they already in the original commics or were they added to the movie? Just curious. (Never read the commics.)

[Crazed Rabbit]

I liked it, even though it was heavy on the 'religous conservatives are evil'. Splendid acting by Hugo Weaving.

Crazed Rabbit

[Zalmoxis]

I thought it was pretty good, not the best movie ever, but still good.

[Incongruous]

Awsome movie.
Possobly one of the best I have ever seen.
However, the start with the Guy Fawkes was stupid, Guy Fawkes was an agent of the Pope and not a patriotic Englishman. That really annoyed me.
Other than that it was good, even the bollocks did'nt get me. Awsome script I have to say and Hugo Weaving was amazing. I thought that it was rally funny seeing John Hurt as the head of an opressive and totalitarian govt. (1984 anyone?).

[Major Robert Dump]

You guys are talking about the tv miniseries right? IT sucked. Thats the last time I lisTen to anyone at the org, someone told me to go geT Firefox too and I did and it didnt help my PC it was just a crappy Clint Eastwood movie. Screw you guys

[Kongamato]

What's with your Ts today, Dump?

[Renly]

Haha, I don't post here. The only reason I'm doing so now is because I'm extremely trashed and I don't know waht I'm doing.

But I did see this movie only a few hours ago and it was really realy really really good. Hugo Weaving did a very good job, and Natalie portman was hot as usual until she got her hair shaved off.

I really liked the end with all the peop;le in the Guy Fawkes masks, that was super cool.



PEACE DUDES!

VIVA JAMESON WHISKEY!

[Moros]

You guys are talking about the tv miniseries right? IT sucked. Thats the last time I lisTen to anyone at the org, someone told me to go geT Firefox too and I did and it didnt help my PC it was just a crappy Clint Eastwood movie. Screw you guys

no the movie, not a TV serie.
btw: firefox is better then IE.

[Puzz3D]

I liked it, even though it was heavy on the 'religous conservatives are evil'. Splendid acting by Hugo Weaving.

The government was using religion to help force conformity on the population. A religious dogmatic belief is perfect for that because it teaches that only its own dogma is correct, and therefore all others are wrong. Those double crosses are The Cross of Lorraine. The Lorraine cross was carried to the Crusades by the original Knights Templar, granted to them for their use by the Patriarch of Jerusalem.

Emblem of the Royal Secret

From that site:

"Interestingly, the Cross of Lorraine bears an uncanny resemblance to the sigil of Baphomet employed by British Magus Aleister Crowley, and the meaning of the two symbols would appear to be virtually synonymous. Baphomet is, after all, the penultimate hermetic symbol, whether depicted by Crowley in the form of a cross, or by Eliphas Levi as a goat-headed hermaphrodite. And the sigil used by Crowley was also employed by ancient alchemists as a device whose meaning was literally "very poisonous." In fact, the symbol was commonly affixed to containers of toxic substances in Europe as recently as the mid-twentieth century. To the alchemists, of course, the symbol and its very meaning had far more esoteric connotations. To them, poison represented an agent of transformation, a vehicle for the reconciliation of opposites. And there is an alchemical myth about a poison which for most men is extremely deadly, while for the elect it confers mastership and absolute power."

and,

"The Cross of Lorraine is far more explicit in it's iconography: the bar above mirroring the bar below, both of which are symmetrically affixed to a central pillar that provides balance and equilibrium. As above, so below is, after all, a Hermetic maxim. And the three bars of which the cross is composed echo Eliphas Levi's concept of the true trinity. Levi posited that the world is governed by two primordial forces, one creative, the other destructive. The equilibrium between these two forces constitutes a third force, and the union of the three constitutes what some might refer to as... God."

[ArnoldLol]

after this, i might considder watching it. after i heard about the superhero thing it was no-go area but i saw the making of the movie and now this. i think i might watch it now

[Geoffrey S]

You guys are talking about the tv miniseries right? IT sucked. Thats the last time I lisTen to anyone at the org, someone told me to go geT Firefox too and I did and it didnt help my PC it was just a crappy Clint Eastwood movie. Screw you guys

Think you're talking about V For Victory or something along those lines; it was awful.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

With the woman giving birth to the reptile thing? That was truly bad.

[Puzz3D]

after this, i might considder watching it. after i heard about the superhero thing it was no-go area but i saw the making of the movie and now this. i think i might watch it now

I wasn't familiar with the graphic novel from which this movie is derived before I saw the movie. That may be good because I didn't go in with any preconceived ideas, and evaluated the plot objectively. There is a lot more story here than you might expect from a graphic novel. The story has been updated to be more in tune with current sociopolitical events which the author of the novel doesn't condone, but I was ok with it having never read the novel. Personally I was ok with the criticisms aimed at the institutions of government, media, church and medicine. These institutions have been corrupted in just the way shown in the movie in our real past history, and to a degree in our current history.

When I saw the DC Comics logo at the beginning of the picture, I thought I had made a mistake going to see it, but the super hero aspect isn't played up. In fact, the hero is not that super and is clearly defeatable. The dramatic chemistry between the two lead actors is very good, and it doesn't decend into melodrama. The movie is somewhat slow going during the development stage and there is a lot of dialog and voiceovers with many interesting lines, but the suspense and tension build to a high degree as you get into the later half of the movie. Flashbacks are used very well in this movie, and are not confusing. I also wasn't hit with the "How did he do that?" at the end of this movie the way I was with The Matrix. There is a bit of Phantom of the Opera here between the leads, but it isn't overdone. Logistics are not addressed. You can't figure out how V or anyone gets from one place to another, but I think that's ok because it's not what the movie is about. The sci-fi aspect is minimal with the setting of 20 years in the future, and you just assume that people have figured out how get around without detection. V is not actually a hero either but more of an anti-hero, and he alone cannot bring about social reform which is only a secondary aim of his anyway.

I came away from the movie with a pretty strong feeling for how hard it would be to regain democracy if it were ever lost. I think it's an important message for the young people of today. The movie is very symbolic, especially the ending. The novel's ending is much more realistic as to what would actually happen. I took the movie's ending as an idealization, and it was an inspiring and impressive sight. I saw it with a friend, and we both thought it was a good movie. Even the progression of the bruise over Evey's eye was very well done.

"Remember, remember, the 5th of November
The Gunpowder Treason and plot;
I know of no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot."

[R'as al Ghul]

I don't think I'm going to see this in a theatre. I'll wait for the DVD if I'll watch it at all. Like BKS, I'm disappointed by the film versions of Moore's novels.
As is Moore himself. He distanced himself from the movie in a recent interview and even goes so far as to ask DC to remove any reference to the movie from the book also. It's the old story of a good author who looses his intellectual property to a big corporation and has to watch it raped.

I urge everybody to get the graphic novel. And while you're there get a copy of From Hell, which is one of the most amazing books I've ever read. It bares no similarity to the movie at all.