Protectorates

**Iskandr** · 04-02-2006, 00:30

Is there any way to just kill these? I mean, remove them from the game entirely? Or at least a console command to break specific ones while you play? Maybe 1.5 will fix things, but for now, they're a real game killer, completely destroy any balance in the campaign.

Thanks,
Iskandr

**GodEmperorLeto** · 04-02-2006, 06:45

In what way are they wrecking your campaign, out of curiosity?

**Dooz** · 04-02-2006, 07:08

A lot of AI factions acquire protectorates, and the submitting factions lay dormant and nothing much happens with them for years.

**Greek_fire19** · 04-02-2006, 12:14

That sounds pretty realistic to me; although I personally would rather protectorates were removed and it was just assumed that a type 4 government represented a type of protectorate, which it sort of does.

Protectorates just seem kind of useless to me. Except for the money.

**Mad Guitar Murphy** · 04-02-2006, 14:37

I have never been able to persuade any nation to become a protectorate, even with most of their empire taken and the remaining cities besieged they never seem to like the idea.

The only situation in which i could get a prectorate was when I had taken all seleucid lands with parthia and so the seleucids offered to become a protectorate in exchange for all their lost lands.... not really a charming offer

**soibean** · 04-02-2006, 16:07

Ive never been able to acquire any protectorates either
Ive gotten a nation down to 1 city and they will never surrender their freedom to blah blah blah
The AI works these negotiations with their magic and will get massive donations per turn, both from their protectorates and from the plus 20k per turn. I dont know if you guys took that out or if Im misunderstanding it but that happened before the patch.

**Cheexsta** · 04-03-2006, 03:10

Originally Posted by Mad Guitar Murphy

I have never been able to persuade any nation to become a protectorate, even with most of their empire taken and the remaining cities besieged they never seem to like the idea.

The only situation in which i could get a prectorate was when I had taken all seleucid lands with parthia and so the seleucids offered to become a protectorate in exchange for all their lost lands.... not really a charming offer

It's easiest to make protectorates when you declare war on them and they ask for a ceasefire. Simply demand they become a protectorate and they'll ask for a fair amount of money. If you have enough money and/or land, voila, you have a protectorate.

But to the original topic, I would much prefer it if protectorates were removed altogether as well. However, I don't see any method of doing it...