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    I've heard that in an attempt to get the United States into the fight, the Germans told the Mexican government "Don't you want to get your land they stole back? Here's your chance. Get them back." Or stuff like that. What do you guys think of it?


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    I believe that was from the Great War; Imperial Germany tried to incite Mexico to attack the United States to distract them from the war in Europe. However, the message, the Zimmerman note (thank you, Wiki... forgot the name of it) was intercepted by the US, and was our primary reason (as in the "trigger" reason) for entering the Great War.

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    Default Re: Threats from Germans in WWII

    So it wasn't WWII?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
    So it wasn't WWII?
    Maybe; but I wouldn't know about it. The Zimmerman note is the most similar instance that I know of, so I just threw that out there.

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    The Zimmerman telegram is the most ridiculous thing ever. Why would GER think that the Mexicans would attack the US while they are fighting a civil war?

    Any way, the only thing like this I've heard of is the above telegram, which was in WWI. Mexico was not courted by GER as far as I know in WWII.


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    Default Re: Threats from Germans in WWII

    Actually Britain intercepted the Telegram. Which was sent 3 different ways, All intercepted by the British

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    Default Re: Threats from Germans in WWII

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon
    I've heard that in an attempt to get the United States into the fight, the Germans told the Mexican government "Don't you want to get your land they stole back? Here's your chance. Get them back." Or stuff like that. What do you guys think of it?
    It's my understanding that the Germans would have done anything to keep the USA out of the fight - in WWII.

    IIRC there were many lobbyists (Charles Lindbergh?) being supported by the Reich to urge isolationism and try to marginalise President Roosevelt's 'creative' attempts to aid Britain and eventually bring US power to bear.
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    It was the WW1. And it came with the sinking of the Lusitinia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    It was the WW1. And it came with the sinking of the Lusitinia.
    Ok, thank you.


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    Default Re: Threats from Germans in WWII

    The Zimmerman note, intercepted by the British and passed to the USA as soon as they could cover their tracks, did indeed encourage the Mexicans to attack the USA.

    It was another in a long string of German Imperial foreign office gaffes.

    I do not know of any analogous effort by the Nazi regime.

    Germany did not "do everything" to keep the USA out of the war. They showed remarkable restraint during the Summer and Fall of 1941 when the USA was fighting alongside the Brits in the Battle of the Atlantic, but then Hitler gaffes and declares war after Pearl Harbor.

    FDR may not have been able to continue his support of England given popular sentiment at home, but Adolf just brought the USA in exactly as Winnie and Franklin had hoped.
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    I've heard that is that it is British propaganda to get the US into WWI.

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    Default Re: Threats from Germans in WWII

    May have been. It always seemed wierd to me.

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