Who is the murderer in these cases?

**Csargo** · 04-02-2006, 20:16

A,B,C,D are all murderers

**Viking** · 04-02-2006, 21:23

The one that make the actual kill, is always the murderer; since the human mind is able to think for itself.
The others are indirect murderers at best.

The exception might be with a mentally ill person: if he has little or no free will, then he might be a tool, just like a gun is.

In case nr.9, B is the murderer, although he should not be punished for his action if killing A was the only way, as he saw it, that he could survive.

**Kaiser of Arabia** · 04-03-2006, 01:22

Osama bin Laden.

**Major Robert Dump** · 04-03-2006, 03:13

While I understand their intent, I'm not a big fan of indirect second degree murder charges, like 2 guys rob a store, one robber gets shot dead, the living robber is tried for 2nd degree murder for the dead robbers death (even though a cop or store worker did the actual shooting) and usually he is found guilty. It varies from state to state, and I think it sets very, very bad precedent.