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    Default Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Some time ago we had a discussion here about the hypocrisy of some governments here in Europe when it comes to Guantanamo or other simlar camps.

    This article that has recently been published in "Der Spiegel" shows another example of how governments that (with good reasons, IMO) criticize "institutions" like Guantanamo apparently "forget" about their standards when it is more convenient.

    Germany Rejected Bremen Man's Return.

    Bottomline (I'm paraphrasing here):
    The US should release those prisoners who seem to have no connections to AQ and send them ... uhm ... somewhere, where they don't bother decent people.
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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Actually, if you read it all, it becomes a damning indictment of both governments, their tawdry excuses and the abomination that is Guantanamo.

    Saddest of all in relation to this man that both the US and German intelligence services concluded was innocent:

    Since then, the Germans have been asking themselves whether the West hasn't created the enemy it believed it was fighting at Guantanamo.
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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
    Some time ago we had a discussion here about the hypocrisy of some governments here in Europe when it comes to Guantanamo or other simlar camps.
    According to the lastest Amnesty International report, Gemany and other European nations didn't care too much about the CIA prisoner transports, either. All we had to do was to ask for an inspection of those flights, which is our right, and to discover that it weren't businessmen but prisoners with hoods sitting in those planes.
    As long as we don't give others an example how to respect those rights, we should refrain from criticizing others.

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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Quote Originally Posted by R'as al Ghul
    As long as we don't give others an example how to respect those rights, we should refrain from criticizing others.
    Well said.
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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Then again, the gov'ts here do seem to be taking considerable public flak for their double dealings once those come to light...
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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Then again, the gov'ts here do seem to be taking considerable public flak for their double dealings once those come to light...
    Well, it's the least we can do to show that we're halfway decent people.
    But it's not such a big issue as I would like it to be.
    Every time it comes to light, there's a small outcry for a week and then it's back to normality again. Until the next incident, and the next...

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    Default Re: Germany not very keen on return of Guantanamo prisoner

    Concerning the flights, were they known to be CIA flights, US government flights or merely apparently "normal" flights.

    If they were CIA flights then failing to check seems madness. If they were normal flights then checking all could be a monumental waste of time.

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