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    Default Re: The Great Turk

    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    For Turks it is.

    Personally I dislike the guy and the attention he gets. He wasn't even born in Turkey. He is an Ottoman from Thessalonica. Isn't there a dispute over his ancestry?

    Ok, I'de rather it had remained the Ottoman Empire and developed into a constitutional monarchy like England. Turkey has a lot of traditions I admire, but the ultra-nationalism and modernism that Ataturk started sickens me.
    Selanik (=Thessalonica) had a serious Turkish population by the year he was born there. It was quite time since Greece was conquered by 1881, and you know Selanik is located in the north eastern part of Greece hence making it a good place for Turkmen emmigrants to settle down in.

    His father Ali Rıza Efendi is from Söke, Aydın -where I am born and is the homeland of a lot of yörüks, nomad Turkmen tribes, all of them having green or blue eyes contradicted to the general Turkish look. His mother Zübeyde Hanım is from Konya, and that is the central part of Anatolia. He has major Turkish ancestry for sure.

    Is Arabic really that hard to learn?
    It is from a different branch of languages, has quite difficult grammatical structure making it the most powerful language on the planet while doubling its complexity.

    Edit:

    Turkey has a lot of traditions I admire, but the ultra-nationalism and modernism that Ataturk started sickens me.
    Can you admit Greece is as nationalistic as Turkey ? One simple question.. Personally I think so and that's where harsh conflicts here and anywhere else is yielded.
    Last edited by LeftEyeNine; 04-06-2006 at 11:29.

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