A Toe in the Water (Redux)

[Pindar]

Second Attempt.

[Kralizec]

You're ignoring the fact that people might be negative about the EU's foreing "policy" while posaitve about that of the Netherlands or Denmark, for exmaple.

That's only ONE reason why this whole poll is flawed. There's not even a GAH optiohn. So I didn'n vote

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and i'm not efvn sober

[Csargo]

I see the point of this

[Pindar]

You're ignoring the fact that people might be negative about the EU's foreing "policy" while posaitve about that of the Netherlands or Denmark, for exmaple.

The poll is meant to allow one's views of their respective polity. The E.U. is added as some Europeans may feel a greater sense of loyalty to the E.U. over the traditional nation state. If one doesn't feel that way, then they should vote their feelings for their homeland.

That's only ONE reason why this whole poll is flawed. There's not even a GAH optiohn. So I didn'n vote

Gah is for the retarded.

[Soulforged]

Pretty bad. The administration has taken a populist stance, tending to totally irrational decisions. The executive believes that he can take over the other branches, and has taken a few steps over the dominion of the other two. Part of the administration appears to have little knowledge of how economy works in capitalism, privileging populist propaganda over political movements based on real data. I see a progresive grow of poverty accompanied by an exponential grow of unemployment.

[Reenk Roink]

Gah is for the retarded.

How dare you...!?



*mental note* never respond to Pindar again...

[Pindar]

How dare you...!?

The truth cuts like a knife.

[Proletariat]

I voted that I'm positive.

Congrats on Senior Membership, Pindar.

[Papewaio]

The truth cuts like a knife.

Well by this statement:

Gah is for the retarded.

Your knife is blunt indeed.

Gah! is an option for those who disagree with the premise of a question, or there is no answer that accurately enough describes the answer they feel most appropriate for the question, or the disdain they have for polls or how they feel.

[Taffy_is_a_Taff]

I feel so negatively about my homeland's future that I left.

[Pindar]

I voted that I'm positive.

Congrats on Senior Membership, Pindar.

Hello Fair Lady,

My Senior Membership reaches back even to the Elder Days... I have seen three ages of the Org. many liberal defeats and many fruitless victories.

[Tribesman]

Pindar ; Unless people state which direction they think their country is heading then it doesn't matter which direction they think their country is heading or if they think that the direction that they desire is really positive or not . Apart from as a blind recipient of propoganda .
Are you a lawyer by any chance?
You ask for generalities to be answered by specifics , if you want to find specifics then you don't focus on generalities .
If you focus on generalities to back up the specfiics that you want to hear then you are a person who a;lready knows the answer that they want to hear and will not listen when it comes to specifics

[Pindar]

Gah! is an option for those who disagree with the premise of a question, or there is no answer that accurately enough describes the answer they feel most appropriate for the question, or the disdain they have for polls or how they feel.

Gah is an inanity. It is the abode of those without the acumen to think through an issue or commit to a stance but nonetheless feel the need to reply.

[Pindar]

Pindar ; Unless people state which direction they think their country is heading then it doesn't matter which direction they think their country is heading or if they think that the direction that they desire is really positive or not . Apart from as a blind recipient of propoganda .
Are you a lawyer by any chance?
You ask for generalities to be answered by specifics , if you want to find specifics then you don't focus on generalities .
If you focus on generalities to back up the specfiics that you want to hear then you are a person who a;lready knows the answer that they want to hear and will not listen when it comes to specifics

The question is quite simple. It asks how a person feels about their nation's prospects in the future. The direction is either positive or negative. There are no specifics required other than choosing a polity and knowing how one feels about it moving into the future.

[Reenk Roink]

Gah is an inanity. It is the abode of those without the acumen to think through an issue or commit to a stance but nonetheless feel the need to reply.

It's a tradition...

The truth cuts like a knife.

And arrogance is broken...

[Pindar]

*mental note* never respond to Pindar again...

"Never" is not very long it appears.

Minus one point for lack of resolve.

It's a tradition...

A tradition that is inane is its own refutation.

[LeftEyeNine]

Is this a show or something? Let the debate flow please if you are really eager about the topic.

[Tribesman]

The question is quite simple. It asks how a person feels about their nation's prospects in the future. The direction is either positive or negative. There are no specifics required other than choosing a polity and knowing how one feels about it moving into the future.
In which case you are asking about specific policies .
Since it appears that each and every country has many diverse policies often moving in seemingly opposite directions .
Then gah can be the only answer .
But gah is a response to the question .
And the question as stated is.........
the abode of those without the acumen to think through an issue

[Papewaio]

Gah is an inanity. It is the abode of those without the acumen to think through an issue or commit to a stance but nonetheless feel the need to reply.

Which makes it a perfect reply for the Backroom.

Its a paradox, without having the space for an inane response you are left with an inane poll.

[Xiahou]

I've got some problems with some of our policies (duh), but overall we're doing quite well.

[Divinus Arma]

Its a good topic for discussion. Lets get on with it and drop the Gah discussion. If you want a poll with Gah, make it yourself.

I am positive about the direction the U.S. is going overall. I am still frustrated with many of the policies of this Senate and White House. I am especially frustrated with the demise of states rights and the expansion of federal power under liberal constitutional interpretation by this Supreme Court. I look forward to when Ginsburg and her ilk pass the mantle.

I also look forward to a more unified and capable Democratic party. This is because Republicans easily destroy the liberal agenda and so have become complacent and fat in the last few years. Good competition breeds better competitors. I want the state's rights GOP back.

[IrishMike]

I have a problem with just about everything connected to the current administration here in the USA. I think the next president needs to be a solid moderate to gain back some national unity, and then slowly shift back to a more liberal direction.

[Faust|]

Extremely naive poll. Unless this is to call out all who answer positively.

[Xiahou]

Extremely naive poll. Unless this is to call out all who answer positively.

Im totally blown away by all the complaints about this. What's so difficult about it? You just have to say -overall- how do you feel about your country's future? Honestly, it's just that simple.... either you think it looks good or bad.

Yes, there can be both good and bad things happening, but you're expected to weigh them and come up with an overall assessment. If you somehow cant manage that, dont vote.

[Kanamori]

Overall, I'm disappointed and bothered by many of the policies that have always been in the States and their hypocrisy but we're not a hole in the ground. We have what tends to matter most for good life, a strong economy, and the future in that area looks good with our businesses spreading to developing areas. Unfortunately, I think we have come to be too dependant on foreign trade for manufactoring, and something must be done about the enormous deficit in trade -- nothing "protectionist" will do -- but the economy cannot remain strong unless we produce more and sell more abroad.

[Kagemusha]

Overall im positive in the direction of my country. But there are lots of issues still i dont agree with the Government and specially EU.

[Watchman]

I kinda like the EU you know. Sure it's clunky and weird and unwieldy and hardly ever does quite what everyone'd like it to (which shouldn't be too surprising, given that this tends to mainly consist of some variation of "gimme mo' money"...), but it gets points for the sheer novelty value and effort.

Plus it's helped keep the Brits, French and Germans off each others' throats and actually cooperating (to some degree anyway) instead. That's a definite plus, given the track record of those three.

[Kagemusha]

I kinda like the EU you know. Sure it's clunky and weird and unwieldy and hardly ever does quite what everyone'd like it to (which shouldn't be too surprising, given that this tends to mainly consist of some variation of "gimme mo' money"...), but it gets points for the sheer novelty value and effort.

Plus it's helped keep the Brits, French and Germans off each others' throats and actually cooperating (to some degree anyway) instead. That's a definite plus, given the track record of those three.

I agree that the idea is not bad and also that it has kept for its part the Big Nations from fighting eachother.I just think it needs massive reforms for it to work.

[Faust|]

Im totally blown away by all the complaints about this. What's so difficult about it? You just have to say -overall- how do you feel about your country's future? Honestly, it's just that simple.... either you think it looks good or bad.

Yes, there can be both good and bad things happening, but you're expected to weigh them and come up with an overall assessment. If you somehow cant manage that, dont vote.

Well you didn't convince me. The area you're talking about isn't what bothers me, in fact to me its a moot point.

Let me clarify: How about we travel to Europe in the feudal age and ask the peasants if they are satisfied with the overall direction of their country?

What is worse, now, is that even the aristocrats are "peasants"... and the most ignoble are "aristocrats".

[Watchman]

I agree that the idea is not bad and also that it has kept for its part the Big Nations from fighting eachother.I just think it needs massive reforms for it to work.

*shrug* It's been "work in progress" for its entire existence. Crisis management and adaptation seems to have been the basic method of making progress, which isn't all that odd given it's something that hasn't really ever been tried before so the whole thing's being done on a trial-and-error basis.